In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/13/2006
   at 04:02 PM, "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>I've seen MVS system programmers install a product and then never
>apply maintenance because they cared nothing about the product. 
>(They felt it was not their dog even after claiming ownership.)

That, of course, is inexcusable.

>On the other hand (or foot) I would say that asking for assistance
>after hosing over maintenance (as with any other problem) is fine
>after doing an appropriate amount of homework. 

The time to do the homework was prior to taking over the maintenance.
At a minimum the cleanup should be charged to their budget.

>And if corporate politics dictate that inexperienced users do their
>own SMP work,

Then the inexperienced users should realize that they are
inexperienced and ask for assistance in putting proper procedures in
place before they do anything else.

>it's to everyone's benefit that the experienced SMP users lend them
>a helping hand. 

At the outset. But if they ignore what the experienced SMP users told
them then they should clean up their own mess.
 
-- 
     Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
     ISO position; see <http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html> 
We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress.
(S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)

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