Also, go to the IEFSSN member of PARMLIB and check if there are any
applications programmers that know anything about how to set up/configure
any of them (or even what they are).  Then throw in Workload Manager, VTAM,
and all your (other) ISV products, too. 

Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Klein, Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 10:33 AM

Grab a Messages and Codes manual.  Count the number of resolutions that say
something along the lines of "Contact your SYSTEMS programmer" vs. Contact
anyone else.  :)


-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Desi de la Garza
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 2:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Systems Programmer Levels Justification


MVS Listers,

We are in the process of justifying the requirement of having multiple
levels of SysProg job titles depending on experience and knowledge.

At the same time provide management with information as to why SysProgs are
higher salaried than application programmers. They are at a loss as to why
that is. Weird that they do not question why a network tech makes more than
the applications also.

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