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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Porowski, Ken
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:11 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Systems Programmer Levels Justification
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> 
> And how many people have 'root' access to the squatty boxes 
> vs the same
> level of access on the mainframe?  

Ah, but the usual "squatty box" only does one thing. So causing an
outage on it is not as great an impact as killing a z/OS system. Also,
in our shop, every production Windows server has some sort of fall over
capability. So, if you kill the active server, its doppleganger takes
over. This is considered "cheap insurance" around here. Now, z/OS can do
the same with a parallel sysplex on multiple CECs (is that what they're
still called?). But the cost, on a one z/OS systems vs. one Windows
server comparison, is much too much <gracious!>.

However, there is a new light here locally. The new CIO, unlike the old,
is now comparing the TOTAL COST of the z/OS platform vs. TOTAL COST of
the entire (all servers) Windows/Sun platform. Now, the Windows people
are learning the pain that the mainframers have felt for years.

> Think there might be a small exposure there?

Actually, we have very few with administrative authority on the
production Windows servers.

> 
> Once the Sysprogs and application programmers are gone maybe we should
> trash the users too ... After all they seem to cause the most 
> problems.

YES! The mere fact that they make the money so that we can have the
systems should not give them the right to expect anything from us!
Excellent!


Note, if not obvious, the above is mainly being silly. Except where it
isn't.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
UICI Insurance Center
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