I am seeing the exact phenomenon here. We're looking at "upgrading" from a 7060-H50 to a z890-140 which are basically the same horsepower. I have one ISV - not Computer Associates - who is charging me a $30000+ upgrade fee and increasing my annual maintenance by about 15% for a horizontal upgrade. Their excuse is that since my old box is a Multiprise box, they gave me a discount on the software and they're just now charging what the software is actually worth. Unfortunately it is a 3rd party IDMS tool that doesn't have much competition so they have us over the proverbial barrel.
Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Salt Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Mainframe & Evil >From: "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Last upgrade in my small shop cost for just ISV software was > > $300,000 in just upgrade fees. I didn't need to change one piece of > > code. That's hard to defend. > >To put it bluntly, it's indefensible. > > -jc- > Gouging by ISV's is a large part of the reason why mainframes are seen by many as being uncompetitive. It has to stop. Fortunately, IBM has realized this and has started competing directly against some of the "offending" ISV's with products of its own. Witness for example the new line of IBM File Manager products, which generally cost a fraction of what it costs to license competing ISV products. Having said that, not all ISV's try to gouge their customers. I know of at least one ISV that charges a remarkably low flat rate for all of their software, regardless of size or speed of mainframe. Dave Salt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

