Unfortunately, CA-1 has taken a big step backwards.  There currently are
three versions using the same FMID.  Recent updates have provided the
fun challenges of a V11 SYSMOD having a PREREQ for a V11.5 SYSMOD and a
V11 FMID-1 SYSMOD having a PREREQ (not an IFREQ) for an FMID-2 SYSMOD
when FMID-2 is not installed in most sites.  This on top of the fact
that 99% of the PTFs are coded as ++APAR.  And someone needs to learn
the difference between PRE and SUP.  But they are doing a better job
with HOLD and PE so there may be hope.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rugen, Len [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Non-SMP/e packaging

But some vendors SMP/E usage is even worse than a non-SMP/E install.
CA-1 may not be an offender, but I've spent a lot of time "fooling"
SMP/E into applying vendor service that was poorly structured.  If there
is no trust in the SMP/E environment, it's not worth a 10 fold increase
in time of installation.  

CA used to promote CA-Activator (CA-Aggravator...) installs, may it rest
in pieces.

> 
>  While SMP/E may be somewhat cumbersome to use, it is the best 
> repository for keeping information on what exactly is the current 
> maintenance level of a software product. Unloaded libraries may be 
> easier to use but aren't any help when there is a problem and you need

> to know what level the code is at. I realize that the trend is to
'dumb
> down' the systems programming requirements, but there are reasons why 
> z/OS is as stable as it is, and SMP/E plays a big part.

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