Not to dispute any of your main points but I think the COBOL compiler
messages have always been "self-documenting" -- back at least to 1974 and
OS/VS COBOL.

Charles

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laughed at. IBM started out doing this in the UNIX side and now its  
carrying over to the MVS side. The cobol compiler is one such example  
the (cobol people in IBM)  state that a messages and codes manual is  
not needed as the messages are self documenting, some are but most  
aren't. When you call up to the support center and level 2 calls you  
back they practically laugh at you for asking. This is a disturbing  
trend at IBM and I would wonder if this is a wave of the future for  
the rest of IBM. I for one would never buy an IBM product that goes  

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