Amen, brother. Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

As current events show, you don't win a war by kidding yourself about what
the enemy is like.

The customer is right. If people are buying non-mainframe boxes, there is a
reason. Oh yeah, clever marketing. Wrong. You can't sell much of anything
that people don't want, no matter how good you are at marketing. Ask Melinda
Gates about "Bob." In fact, good marketing is all about selling what people
do want.

Will Rogers said something like "it's a shame all the people who know how to
run the country are cutting hair and driving taxis." I am reminded of that
when I read some of the posts here. It's a shame all the IT management
experts are MVS sysprogs.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Craddock, Chris
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Just another example of mainframe costs.

Rick and Steve and others make points along the lines of...

And oh boy, I get to be the bad guy again! With all due respect, you
guys need to get out more. Your perceptions on the relative scale and
performance (and even reliability) of the "squatty boxes" are well out
of date. 

So how many servers does it take to match one z? 

Well, um... one. Less actually depending on what you're comparing. A
typical mainframe -vs- a single seat PC? Well ok, you win that contest
on most (but not all) grounds. Mainframe -vs- Bad Ass(tm) open systems
server box like (say) a mid to high end p series? Or a Superdome? Trust
me, you really don't want to pick on that dude. He'll eat your lunch and
size you up for dinner too.

Honestly guys, I am a pro-mainframe guy. I even used to work in the same
place as Steve <mumble> years ago. So take as read that I am not
ignorantly mainframe bashing. Mainframes have many fine attributes, but
they're not the king of the hill any more. Not even close. Sorry.

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