Amen, brother. Denial is not just a river in Egypt. As current events show, you don't win a war by kidding yourself about what the enemy is like.
The customer is right. If people are buying non-mainframe boxes, there is a reason. Oh yeah, clever marketing. Wrong. You can't sell much of anything that people don't want, no matter how good you are at marketing. Ask Melinda Gates about "Bob." In fact, good marketing is all about selling what people do want. Will Rogers said something like "it's a shame all the people who know how to run the country are cutting hair and driving taxis." I am reminded of that when I read some of the posts here. It's a shame all the IT management experts are MVS sysprogs. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Just another example of mainframe costs. Rick and Steve and others make points along the lines of... And oh boy, I get to be the bad guy again! With all due respect, you guys need to get out more. Your perceptions on the relative scale and performance (and even reliability) of the "squatty boxes" are well out of date. So how many servers does it take to match one z? Well, um... one. Less actually depending on what you're comparing. A typical mainframe -vs- a single seat PC? Well ok, you win that contest on most (but not all) grounds. Mainframe -vs- Bad Ass(tm) open systems server box like (say) a mid to high end p series? Or a Superdome? Trust me, you really don't want to pick on that dude. He'll eat your lunch and size you up for dinner too. Honestly guys, I am a pro-mainframe guy. I even used to work in the same place as Steve <mumble> years ago. So take as read that I am not ignorantly mainframe bashing. Mainframes have many fine attributes, but they're not the king of the hill any more. Not even close. Sorry. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

