TRIVIA: back in the 70's and 80's Texas state law prevented someone using the title of "Engineer" unless they were licensed by the state. So, our IBM SE's had the title of "Systems Representative" on their business cards.
Gary Garland Gregory, MS CA Senior Software Engineer Tel: +1-214-473-1863 Fax: +1-214-473-1050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help settle a job title/role debate Back when I worked at EDS in the mid 80's, they called programmers Systems Engineers. (SE's) They even had a program to develop programmers called the SED program. (also had a OPD program - Operations Personnel Development) Needless to say, when I hear the term Systems Engineers I think of programmers not Systems Programmers. Bill Johnson Systems Programmer and former Systems Engineer --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html