I don't think that any single Intel based box out there today could scale up to a few hundred virtual Windows boxes. I don;t know how many virtual servers that VirtualPC can support. VMWare's ESX can now support up to 128. So I don't think you you can get them all in a single box.

You MIGHT be able to get blade servers and run VMWare. Depending on which blade solution you choose, you can get 10-14 blades in a box and each one might be able to to run 4-8 virtual servers. So in a single blade cage you could get 40-112 virtual images. I think HP has a cage that you can put 20 or so blade servers in a cage.

Going to blades can greatly reduce the amount of rack space you use, power requirements, cooling requirements and network connections.

Now it will change your cooling requirements.

I am not sure it is still exists, but Unisys used to have a ES/9000 that I guess could be called a Intel based mainframe. They may have something new.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the info.  Linux isn't an option, it is windows or
nothing.  How about including other vendors than IBM?  Does anyone
make what would amount to a windows mainframe?  Something that can run
a couple thousand virtual windows servers doing everything from
authentication, file and print, database, web, terminal services,
etc?  Maybe something from unisys?

Thanks,
Jack

On Jun 6, 6:47 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John S. Giltner, Jr.) wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

I realize that this has probably been asked before, but google didn't
give me an answer.  Before I asked my question let me state that I
know that windows server 2003 and longhorn won't run on an IBM
mainframe.  There is the endian issue and the ascii vs ebcidic
issues.  Is there a medium to large IBM box that can run a couple
hundred of virtual windows 2003 servers?  And said box can scale up to
approximately 1000+ virtual windows servers?  Given that all current
servers are dell and hp servers with 2 intel core 2 duo processors and
a total of 150TB of storage?

I am doing research for the possible replacement of 200+ windows
server in our datacenter.  We need to add servers, but there is
literally no more power.  My thinking is if IBM can get windows
servers to run on their something like their mainframes it would save
electricity and space.  Everyone would win.

Thanks,
Jack

zSeries mainframes can NOT run Windows.  That I am aware of, IBM is not
even trying.  They can run Linux and a LOT of  server functions that you
would use Windows for you can also use Linux.

As for the number of Linux images you can get on a zSeries mainframe,
well it depends.  Depends on which zBox you get, and what the Windows
servers are doing.  If they are all running in a "cluster" attempting to
predict the weather, well, no I don't think even the largest z9 could
handle replacing 200 "four-way" current speed Intel CPU's.

Now if they are all doing things like database serving, e-mail server,
LDAP server, DNS server, ftp server, and file and print server type
functions, then yes one of the zSeries boxes could replace 200.

You may also save in software costs for software that is licensed by the
CPU.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------------------------------
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,
send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO
Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Reply via email to