On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 00:37:02 -0400 "Craddock, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

:>Ken Tomiak said

:>> <<>>Or the system programmer has to justify the behaviour to an
:>auditor and
:>> the vendor did not provide an easily understood explanation of why
:>SUB=MSTR or
:>> an IEFSSNxx entry is required.

:>That pretty much makes my point. If they don't understand what either of
:>those things mean, then any number of pages explaining why it's
:>necessary are going to be essentially worthless. Ask me how I know :-(

There are changes, and there are changes.

An IEFSSN restriction does not make much sense. One cannot bypass security
with it.

:>I also find it depressingly ironic that customers (righteously) require
:>us to play by the rules of the architecture and operating system and
:>then go all whiny and crybaby on us when doing the aforementioned "right
:>thing" means they have to make a one line change in a parmlib member.
:>You would think we were asking them to consign first born children into
:>slavery.

:>And being treated like a giant doofus who's just aching to knock down
:>western civilization along the way just puts frosting on the cake. My
:>tolerance for calm rational exposition goes downhill very quickly in
:>those situations. And having done that same job myself a good many years
:>earlier, I have a lot of trouble mustering any sympathy for their
:>position.

:>I tend to believe that having the keys to the family Buick ought to
:>signify the holder is at least knowledgeable enough to get the key in
:>the thing and be able to back it out the driveway without having the
:>owner's manual and a "Buick Controls for Dummies" book open on the front
:>seat. 

There have been quite a few products that have included "special" SVCs because
the developers were too lazy/uneducated to do things the right way.

You don't want to give the keys to someone who will leave them in the ignition
when shopping in the mall.

:>Draw any analogy you want to other systems programmers (or auditors)
:>that you have known over the years. Of course none of this august body
:>would ever fall into that group though right?

As above.

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