Well of course, Dean, Timothy makes perfect sense.  You should believe 
everything your vendors say, without any verification, right?  ;-)

At the last shop I worked at (a government shop), they had a study done to 
evaluate what platform they should be running on, and the study proposed Oracle 
running on Sun servers.  I later found out (to my utter lack of surprise), that 
the study had been done free of charge.  I will give you exactly one guess who 
it was that did the study gratis.  Of course, the conclusion was the one that 
was desired by those that asked for the study (upper management), who are 
convinced that the mainframe is obsolete and expensive.  The "study" is being 
used as a justification to spend 10's of millions of dollars to replace the 
mainframe.  

Of course, the complete lack of public benchmarks for the mainframe make it 
impossible to refute the performance conclusions of the so called study, so I 
think it actually hurts IBM, even if the benchmarks would not be in favor of 
the mainframe.  IBM's refusal to submit (or allow others to do so) mainframe 
benchmark scores allows others to make wild claims about how slow mainframes 
are, without any way to refute such claims, leaving us (the mainframe 
proponents) completely unarmed.

>>> Dean Kent  7/17/2007 3:03:45 PM >>>

Instead, Timothy Sipples suggests (and I paraphrase from his reply to me)
"if you don't know, talk to your IBM rep - he'll tell you what you need".
Sure, he'll tell me I need a Sun system instead of an IBM system - right?
Or perhaps I should go talk to Sun or HP or Dell to find out what best suits
my needs.   If you care about the platform, you should care about the
problem... or so it seems to me.

Regards,
   Dean

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