> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> 
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:15:25 -0600, Dave Jones wrote:
> >
> >Service for z/VM has been available via Internet delivery for at
least 
> >the last 8 years or so. ... upload the VM service
> >envelop(es) to your maintenance z/VM user id, un-terse them, 
> and begin 
> >the service process. Piece of cake....you z/OS guys have been really 
> >missing out....:-)
> >
> ???  IANASP, but what have z/OS guys been missing?  My 
> understanding is that with ShopZ, z/OS connects directly to 
> the IBM site and uses the SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER command to pull 
> the service "envelope(s)"
> directly to z/OS.  No uploading; no un-tersing; I'm confident 
> that the z/OS SPs feel little remorse for those two steps.
> 
> (Yes, it is necessary to upload the JCL supplied by ShopZ to z/OS.
> Or can that be mailed by ShopZ directly to a z/OS mailbox?  Again,
> IANASP.)

First time thru we just "cut 'n' pasted" from the delivery website to an
"empty" PDS member.  For subsequent orders we usually just need to
update the package filename(s) and hash value(s), submit the job and "go
for coffee".  Then we do our normal APPLY CHECK / APPLY process.

I suppose one day the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK will fail......

    -jc-

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