I probably should have added the phrase "available to the application
programmer".  And yes, most of the MVS sites at which I worked used
ignorance and information hiding to do it.  Plus a little attitude --
"Real programmers only use SYSUDUMP" kind of attidude.

In any case, I've never been privileged to learn it or use it.

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> >I've rarely been in a shop that had IPCS
> 
> Isn't IPCS a 'bundled' product?


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