> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 8:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: COBOL / VSAM question.

[snip]

> From "the other side of the fence", it is equally tiresome when "you
> folks" "point all problems" at systems folks.
> 
> <anecdote>
> A few years ago during "acceptance testing" of a z/OS upgrade, an
> application group reported that their application (an ISV 
> product, btw)
> was abending in one of the two CICS regions in which it ran.  After
> several hours of dump/trace analysis and several calls to the product
> vendor's support center, it was discovered that one of several
> interdependent product load modules was "back-level" in the abending
> region.  After some "pointed" questions about that inconsistency, they
> finally "admitted" to having botched the backout of a test change
> package.  When they corrected that inconsistency, the abends stopped.
> </anecdote>
> 
>     -jc-

You actually had people come in to test?!?

We got a single Sunday test on our LPAR split before production
implementation. Because it was, you know, "transparent". At that, we had
one programming group bitterly complaining about having to do any work.
They didn't even have to come in to the office. We have remote
capability. They just didn't want to be bothered. This is the same group
which refused to test a couple of years ago, then bitterly complained
when one of their jobs failed. Apparently Tech Services (all 4 of us)
are supposed to be able to test everything in our sandbox. This one
group has better things to do, thank you very much!

On the other hand, there is always enough blame to go around. Tech
Services, or at least myself, does not always get it right either.
However, when it blows up, my first desire is to get the problem fixed,
not fix the blame.

Oh, and I might also mention that our CEO doesn't give a ... whose
problem it was. He just wants it fixed so that the business can go back
to making some money and helping our customers. I think maybe he has the
right idea.

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage
Administrative Services Group
Information Technology

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