On Tue, 13 May 2008 14:42:12 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote: 

>As I said in a previous post, we've previously experienced this problem
>only in DR testing where the mirroring connection is brutally interrupted
>on purpose. In the case of CEC upgrade/replacement, all systems would be
>shut down cleanly before hardware work begins.
>
>How about, just before V XCF,OFF, the SETXCF commands are issued to 
expunge
>the troublesome--mostly DB2--structures in advance? The advantage of doing
>it beforehand would be that IPLs on new hardware would then be
>straightforward. This matters a lot to automation, which wants to start up
>everything in a big rush.
 
 
We, too, experienced this problem in DR testing.  I chose to recreate the 
problem - and FIX it - during our z9-to-z10 upgrade since we would then have 
the opportunity to establish a working DR method and document it for all (of 
us) to see.  We are still using our CFRM file from 2005.  (Sysplex is 
relatively 
new to this site.)  
 
My DR view is that that "clean shutdowns" are for whimps.  Perfect the error 
recovery path and skip everything else.  Dual path is often inefficient in 
computer logic and it is also inefficient in human processes.  It is simply 
amazing how that shift in viewponit can open up a lot of possibilities.  (For 
one 
thing, system shutdown can be blazingly fast.  Startup doesn't have to be a 
daily disaster if you've planned ahead.)  Think of how much your automation 
logic would change for the better if it was ALWAYS working from the viewpoint 
of recovery.  
  
--
Tom Schmidt 
(That last paragraph should provoke some fun discussion.) 
 

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