This is really scary, not only because of the lack of skills, but IMHO
because of the lack of security.  Besides this company obviously getting
someone who doesn't know what they are doing, they are giving away the
"keys to the kingdom". Who is verifying the integrity of the employees
of the outsourcers?  As you can see from my signature I work for a bank.
While banks can get someone who is not on the up-and-up, they take great
pains not to by doing extensive background checks.  Now companies are
sending tasks like z/OS system programming and Windows and Unix
administration oversees.  To do their jobs those people usually have a
very high level of access to the systems.  Can you say cyber terrorism?

Tom Kelman
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chase, John
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:09 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Outsourcing dilemma or debacle, you decide...
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
> >
> > As I mentioned in the past, a friend is losing his job (and
> > looking for the next one) because the company he works for is
> > sending all systems programmer, operations and scheduling, as
> > well as a lot of other non-mainframe, positions, to a firm in India.
> >
> > Well, this past week he had to sit down and explain what he
> > does and so forth to the "Sr." Systems Programmer sent in by
> > the outsourcing firm.
> > Remember, one only gets ONE chance to make a first impression
> > and this was the outsourcing firm's one chance.  According to
> > my friend, it did not look good.
> >
> > Other than the fact that this "Sr." Systems Programmer has
> > never installed ANY base OS, he claimed, or so it's thought,
> > that he installed z/OS 1.10, then, it's thought, he retracted
> > that statement and replaced it with he worked on 1.10.
> 
> The other kind of ESP, maybe?
> 
> > Other scary thoughts..., [ snip ]
> >
> > Sorry for the rant, but my friend had to get it off his
> > chest, and I, passing it along, mine.  There are plenty other
> > examples but my friend just sighed and left at this.
> 
> Apparently management there does not fully comprehend all the
> implications of "You get what you pay for".  If it's a publicly-held
> firm, I think I'd want to divest......
> 
>     -jc-
> 
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