Sorry, but I think you are making it very wide.

Some companies really give up on hiring from inside the Country moving
the services to overseas, but people overseas are almost as skilled or
even more skilled. They are just cheaper.

As to the fact of terrorism it will always depend on what kind of
company one will contract. You can always suffer from terrorism from
inside also.

And yes, I work in Brazil, so outside US. And yes I work in a project
for a US company. But I work for a US company also.

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Kelman, Tom
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is really scary, not only because of the lack of skills, but IMHO
> because of the lack of security.  Besides this company obviously getting
> someone who doesn't know what they are doing, they are giving away the
> "keys to the kingdom". Who is verifying the integrity of the employees
> of the outsourcers?  As you can see from my signature I work for a bank.
> While banks can get someone who is not on the up-and-up, they take great
> pains not to by doing extensive background checks.  Now companies are
> sending tasks like z/OS system programming and Windows and Unix
> administration oversees.  To do their jobs those people usually have a
> very high level of access to the systems.  Can you say cyber terrorism?
>
> Tom Kelman
> Commerce Bank of Kansas City
> (816) 760-7632
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Chase, John
>> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:09 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Outsourcing dilemma or debacle, you decide...
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gary Green
>> >
>> > As I mentioned in the past, a friend is losing his job (and
>> > looking for the next one) because the company he works for is
>> > sending all systems programmer, operations and scheduling, as
>> > well as a lot of other non-mainframe, positions, to a firm in India.
>> >
>> > Well, this past week he had to sit down and explain what he
>> > does and so forth to the "Sr." Systems Programmer sent in by
>> > the outsourcing firm.
>> > Remember, one only gets ONE chance to make a first impression
>> > and this was the outsourcing firm's one chance.  According to
>> > my friend, it did not look good.
>> >
>> > Other than the fact that this "Sr." Systems Programmer has
>> > never installed ANY base OS, he claimed, or so it's thought,
>> > that he installed z/OS 1.10, then, it's thought, he retracted
>> > that statement and replaced it with he worked on 1.10.
>>
>> The other kind of ESP, maybe?
>>
>> > Other scary thoughts..., [ snip ]
>> >
>> > Sorry for the rant, but my friend had to get it off his
>> > chest, and I, passing it along, mine.  There are plenty other
>> > examples but my friend just sighed and left at this.
>>
>> Apparently management there does not fully comprehend all the
>> implications of "You get what you pay for".  If it's a publicly-held
>> firm, I think I'd want to divest......
>>
>>     -jc-
>>
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