So, you really think that, if one is not north american, a US citzen, then he/she has less skills??
I think of it as a xenophobic problem. Actually, I realy think that, because of all the problems we have here in Brazil, where I live (I can't comment about India, as I don't know) such as lack of formal training or base education, we learned to study by ourselves and for what I see here people are very competent. I have been there in the US and talk to a friend of mine who lives there see that the problem there is a bad circle: companies start to out source because people stop studing IT, and people stop studing IT because of the outsourcing. I am not saying that we are better... I just want to say that it's different. Ricardo. On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Pinnacle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- From: ", IBM Mainframe Discussion List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:57 AM > Subject: Re: Outsourcing dilemma or debacle, you decide... > > >> >> >> In a message dated 6/12/2008 10:47:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>> >>> Sorry, but I think you are making it very wide. >> >> I disagree, if by "wide" you mean exaggerating the problem. >> >>> Some companies really give up on hiring from inside the Country moving >> >> the services to overseas, but people overseas are almost as skilled or >> even more skilled. They are just cheaper. >> >> No disagreement with this. >> > > Actually, huge disagreement with this. The OP clearly shows that people > overseas are not as skilled (even more skilled? That's a joke). Cheaper, > sure, but you get what you pay for. Communications of the ACM (CACM) just > had a study of offshoring, and one of the dirty little secrets right now is > that wages in India are increasing, and people are jumping companies in > search of the next rupee (similar to what was going on here throughout the > 80's and early 90's). CACM reports that offshore turnover negatively > impacts companies because they're constantly retraining personnel. They > won't stay cheaper for long, as it is beginning to dawn on many Indians that > there is intrinsic value to what they provide. TATA et al. will milk the > tit for as long as they can, but you can't hold back people who want a US > standard of living. I could go on, but that's enough of a rant for one day. > > Regards, > Tom Conley > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
