Andrew

I believe Peter Hunkeler is putting us more or less on the right track here in 
stating that there is no support for the 3270 data stream from the TELNET 
client function available from TSO. Of course there may be other vendors 
somehow supplying this function and, taking his post at face value, it seems 
Dave Gibney not only knows of one but is using one.

Meantime what is all this about "2 SSCPs in the same Domain"? I can vaguely 
see - because I used to be a teacher and I had to try to imagine how 
students' ideas could get tangled - that you may imagine that a VTAM 
application talking to another VTAM application has to be cross-domain. This 
is not true: two VTAM applications running on the same system and activated 
by the same VTAM SSCP can happily talk to one another. However, you seem 
to be talking about a TELNET client on one system talking to a TELNET server 
on another system which, if both applications were using the VTAM API would 
be cross-domain. However, the TELNET client function in z/OS does not rely 
on the VTAM API. Moreover the TELNET connection has nothing to do with 
VTAM domains. Read that twice since I see this false connection appears 
more than once in your post. The only involvement of VTAM in your scenario is 
from the TELNET server, which happens, confusingly IMHO, to be called the 
TN3270 server but does need to be distinguished from the z/OS UNIX TELNET 
server, to the accessed SNA application.

Isn't it time for "a show and tell", meaning a demonstration from your customer 
of what he/she is actually doing and a report back to the eager listeners here 
in the list?

It may be this is all confusion over which server is being used. I haven't used 
the z/OS UNIX TELNET server (otelnetd) but if it can do what I imagine it may 
be able to do, it may give the impression that the 3270 data stream is being 
supported. Assuming my memory is good, I could use TELNET from one AIX 
system to another AIX system and manipulate SMIT with the cursor keys in 
what someone familiar with using 3270 devices might describe as a "full-
screen" environment. What's interesting about the comparison of the two 
environments is that the SMIT application reacts to those cursor movements 
in a way that would never happen with 3270 since there can be an immediate 
reaction to the character entered rather than having to wait for the entry of 
an AID key such as ENTER.

Chris Mason

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 22:56:17 -0700, Andrew McLaren 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>Kind of a weird question I know, but ... it has been a day full of weird
>questions.
>
>A customer would like to know if they can open a TN3270 session *from*
>one z/OS host, to another z/OS host?
>
>I do not believe this is possible. For a start, you cannot have 2 SSCPs
>in the same Domain; so how can you have a Dependent LU?. Besides, there
>is no TN3270 client (AFAIK) for z/OS. However my customer - not on the
>face of it, a fool - sincerely believes that this is what he is doing,
>today.
>
>So who is right? Can I open a TN session to a host in another domain???
>
>Many thanks for any clues
>Andrew

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