Dave According to some nice diagrams on an IBM web page I have seen explaining Hipersockets, to say "using the path out of the CEC and back" seems inappropriate. I made sure of this because Patrick O'Keefe - also taking an interest in this thread - complained in an APPN newsgroup post that the APPN transmission group characteristics table entry covering HiperSockets specified UNSECURE - I know if the VTAM developers had a better appreciation of negative prefixes in English they would have used the word INSECURE[1] - rather than one of the other security code words available.
It turns out nobody bothered about the full set of characteristics; they concerned themselves only with the speed characteristic. Those who did think it through concluded that UNSECURE was incorrect - on two counts! I couldn't easily find the pretty picture I found before but this reference covers the point, specifically the initial text following the title "HiperSockets": http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd/464/baskey.html [1] For what it's worth, the Google ration is 1:12 (in millions) in favour of "insecure". Chris Mason On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:04:07 -0700, Gibney, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I'm already TLS from my workstation to the original logon of >TSO, and then I at least am so far always using the Hipersocket >connection, so I see no security lapse. I don't have any good reason to >check it out using the path out of the CEC and back. > It does seem strange though if TLS isn't supported as you say. > >-----Original Message----- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy >Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:37 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: TN3270 *from* a host?? > ... > >It should be mentioned that the telnet transparent mode >under TSO does not support TLS. So if TLS encryption is >required (as it is here) this won't work (at least as of >z/OS 1.7). > >As for being written using the PASCAL API, so is the SMTP >server. > >-- >Richard ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

