Dave

According to some nice diagrams on an IBM web page I have seen explaining 
Hipersockets, to say "using the path out of the CEC and back" seems 
inappropriate. I made sure of this because Patrick O'Keefe - also taking an 
interest in this thread - complained in an APPN newsgroup post that the APPN 
transmission group characteristics table entry covering HiperSockets specified 
UNSECURE - I know if the VTAM developers had a better appreciation of 
negative prefixes in English they would have used the word INSECURE[1] - 
rather than one of the other security code words available.

It turns out nobody bothered about the full set of characteristics; they 
concerned themselves only with the speed characteristic. Those who did think 
it through concluded that UNSECURE was incorrect - on two counts!

I couldn't easily find the pretty picture I found before but this reference 
covers the point, specifically the initial text following the title 
"HiperSockets":

http://researchweb.watson.ibm.com/journal/rd/464/baskey.html

[1] For what it's worth, the Google ration is 1:12 (in millions) in favour 
of "insecure".

Chris Mason

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:04:07 -0700, Gibney, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

>  Well, I'm already TLS from my workstation to the original logon of
>TSO, and then I at least am so far always using the Hipersocket
>connection, so I see no security lapse. I don't have any good reason to
>check it out using the path out of the CEC and back.
>  It does seem strange though if TLS isn't supported as you say.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Richard Peurifoy
>Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 8:37 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: TN3270 *from* a host??
> ...
>
>It should be mentioned that the telnet transparent mode
>under TSO does not support TLS. So if TLS encryption is
>required (as it is here) this won't work (at least as of
>z/OS 1.7).
>
>As for being written using the PASCAL API, so is the SMTP
>server.
>
>--
>Richard

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