Got burned because someone setup automation to escalate a P TCAS to a FORCE TCAS if it didn't come down in a timely fashion.
Operations inadvertenly issued a P TCAS during the day and didn't respond to FSTOP. Automation eventually did a FORCE TCAS. Ended up IPL'ing to clean that up. Then had the Operations Analyst responsible for Automation get into an argument with me when I said you can't do that. His rational was because that was the way he was told to escalate things. Thanks Bill Bishop Specialist Mainframe Support Group Server Development & Support Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing North America, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (502) 570-6143 rdeguz1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> 12/03/2008 04:10 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> To [email protected] cc Subject Got burned by the FORCE COMMAND ? Anyone got burned by issuing the Force command (without ARM) and had to re-ipl? I myself have had issued FORCE without ARM to terminate a rogue batch job that just wont budge using repeated CANCEL and KILL. I've been fortunate that night to not have had to re-IPL our system. z/OS 1.9 FORCE COMMAND WARNING "Consider using the FORCE command as a last resort when the CANCEL command still fails to perform its function after you have issued it several times." Gone is the other warning that states: (circa 1996) Never use the FORCE command without understanding that - After issuing FORCE, you might have to re-IPL." << something to that effect. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

