On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:23:29 -0600, Mark Zelden 
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Good point.  "Give me the problem, not the solution" probably applies here.
>(and too often in general).  People asking "how do I do xyz" instead of
>describing what their real problem is to begin with.
>

Mark,

You gave me just too good an opening for me not to exploit it...  :-)

I happen to be working on a project to reduce start-up times on z/OS and one 
of the things I've been looking at is the degree to which the JES impedes the 
start-up of other software. (And I am looking at USS and other system 
components that also get in the way).

It seems to me that the problem is stated in reverse: what is really needed is 
for the JES to get out of the way of other software start-up to the extent 
possible. It seems silly for software to wait for the completion of all of JES 
start-up when it may only require a minor JES service that is up well before 
the completion of all of JES start-up. For that matter, some of the services 
offered by the JES (for historical reasons) perhaps ought to be operating 
system services which can be enabled earlier than JES start-up. And the start-
up of various services -- which for various reasons have been serial -- 
perhaps ought to made parallel to the extent possible. 

>From what we can tell, we have ample resources (CPU, memory, channels) to 
come up much more quickly than we do but we're getting tied-up in various 
ways.

I suspect that I've just thrown meat to the lions, and I look forward to 
further 
discussion on this topic.


W. Kevin Kelley  IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development

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