I love it .....I had a COBOL programmer bet me that our DOS/VSE system on our 
4381 was causing her abend. She bet me a dinner, well I collected, brought her 
in and did a instruction trace pointed right to her code....

Scott ford
www.identityforge.com

On Aug 7, 2012, at 3:27 PM, "McKown, John" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Oh, wow. We must have had the same person working in the late 1970s at my 
> first job. "System abend is a System problem, FIX IT!" was his first 
> statement on an S0C7. I explained that "System abend" meant "system detected 
> problem". And I showed him how to find the statement which abended in his 
> COBOL listing. He went away. And came back two days later with the same, 
> unsolved, problem. I threw him out. The people on the other side of the print 
> shop (next to my *office*, I had an office back then!) heard me. The only 
> thing I learned from the DI was how to "project".
> 
> We had DOS/VS at that time. The DOS person said that DOS would occasionally 
> kill his programs as well. With the words "USER REQUESTED TERMINATION". The 
> programmer screamed at the DOS person to show him where in his COBOL, it said 
> "PERFORM TERMINATION". 
> 
> He finally left IT and went to work for the water department.
> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Gould
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2012 2:18 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: File Processing
>> 
>> Hal:
>> 
>> A long time ago (when MVS first came out) a programmer got an S0C7  
>> and brought it to us as it was a system abend for it was "our"  
>> problem. I pointed out while picking up the phone to his boss's boss  
>> and telling them both to read the FM and to get the F out of there.
>> His boss had a few choice words and he only came down once again to  
>> gripe about some issue and we told (again) to RTFM about 
>> another user  
>> problem. He subsequently left and got aa high paying consultants   
>> job. We had a laugh over that.
>> 
>> Ed
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