Agreed. The full name is OSA-Express Integrated Console Controller and was primarly meant to provide Console Support to IPL OSes. Overtime, its use has evolved but the basic concept remains.
Regards Parwez Hamid ________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> Sent: 20 July 2020 12:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for local (called non-SNA) terminals, printers and ...CONSOLES. Consoles are the most important. Of course 3172, 3274, and other controllers were not the goal. IBM went looong way from 3174s to to ICC. There were 2074 (quite expensive), VTAM consoles (not very usable for IPL), older SYSCON (Operating System Messages on HMC) and the latest 3270-like SYSG aka PCOMM-like icon in HMC. SYSG is AFAIK z/VM nomenclature. BTW, Note, nomenclaure for "HMC-like" consoles: 1. Operating System Messages z/VM: SYSC z/OS: SYSCON 2. HMC Integrated 3270 console (is it proper name?) z/VM: SYSG z/OS: HMCS I don't know about other OSes. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 19.07.2020 o 15:17, Tony Thigpen pisze: > Christian, > I was dismayed too when I first discovered this limitation. The OSA-C > was originally intended to eliminate the local 3174 requirement. It > was not really designed to replace the 3172-003, which is what many > are using it for today. > > And, you also need to look back at the OSA-C's roots which was the > 3274 emulation in the P370, P390 and the MP3000. > > Tony Thigpen > > Christian Svensson wrote on 7/19/20 8:40 AM: >> Thanks for the input folks. >> >> Brian: I have it working just fine, the setup was easy as you said - the >> reason I started this thread was because I couldn't understand why the >> limitations on the TCP port number and the philosophy behind the >> routing. >> >> It seems pretty weird to me that IBM implemented ICC this way, but hey - >> I'm just a stranger on the internet :-) >> >> >> Regards, >> >> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 06:52 Brian Westerman >> <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You can set up some of the ports to be local VTAM terminals, then >>> you can >>> use VISTA (or any 3270 emulator) to connect into the ICC port 3270, >>> and use >>> the LUNAME of the 3270 you defined as a local 3270 terminal. Since >>> you can >>> have over 100 terminals per port, making them all os consoles is a >>> waste, >>> so having a bunch of them as local 3270's that you can give to your >>> carious >>> LPARs (and use EE to connect to the LPARs they are not connected >>> to), is a >>> great way to use them. >>> >>> I like to make the first 16 to 32 devices OS consoles and the rest >>> of them >>> local 3270s. >>> >>> So you are using TCP to get to them inside the ICC, but they are >>> technically local 3270 terminals. I think you can make some of them >>> printers if you want, but that seems like a waste. ====================================================================== Jeśli nie jesteś adresatem tej wiadomości: - powiadom nas o tym w mailu zwrotnym (dziękujemy!), - usuń trwale tę wiadomość (i wszystkie kopie, które wydrukowałeś lub zapisałeś na dysku). Wiadomość ta może zawierać chronione prawem informacje, które może wykorzystać tylko adresat.Przypominamy, że każdy, kto rozpowszechnia (kopiuje, rozprowadza) tę wiadomość lub podejmuje podobne działania, narusza prawo i może podlegać karze. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Kapitał zakładowy (opłacony w całości) według stanu na 01.01.2020 r. wynosi 169.401.468 złotych. If you are not the addressee of this message: - let us know by replying to this e-mail (thank you!), - delete this message permanently (including all the copies which you have printed out or saved). This message may contain legally protected information, which may be used exclusively by the addressee.Please be reminded that anyone who disseminates (copies, distributes) this message or takes any similar action, violates the law and may be penalised. mBank S.A. with its registered office in Warsaw, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa,www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl. District Court for the Capital City of Warsaw, 12th Commercial Division of the National Court Register, KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Fully paid-up share capital amounting to PLN 169.401.468 as at 1 January 2020. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
