I completely disagree. Why would IBM have two settings in the configuration screen for them, one as a 3270 and the other as a console, if they only wanted you to be able to use consoles?
Brian On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:25:54 +0000, Parwez Hamid <parwez_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote: >Agreed. The full name is OSA-Express Integrated Console Controller and was >primarly meant to provide Console Support to IPL OSes. Overtime, its use has >evolved but the basic concept remains. > >Regards > >Parwez Hamid > >________________________________ >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of >R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> >Sent: 20 July 2020 12:17 >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> >Subject: Re: Multi-channel OSA-ICC routing and TCP port behavior > >Excuse me, but IMHO OSA-ICC is just way to get rid off old equipment >like 3174L. It is NOT replacement, it is only for local (called non-SNA) >terminals, printers and ...CONSOLES. Consoles are the most important. Of >course 3172, 3274, and other controllers were not the goal. > >IBM went looong way from 3174s to to ICC. There were 2074 (quite >expensive), VTAM consoles (not very usable for IPL), older SYSCON >(Operating System Messages on HMC) and the latest 3270-like SYSG aka >PCOMM-like icon in HMC. SYSG is AFAIK z/VM nomenclature. > > >BTW, Note, nomenclaure for "HMC-like" consoles: >1. Operating System Messages >z/VM: SYSC >z/OS: SYSCON > >2. HMC Integrated 3270 console (is it proper name?) >z/VM: SYSG >z/OS: HMCS > >I don't know about other OSes. > >-- >Radoslaw Skorupka >Lodz, Poland > > > > > > >W dniu 19.07.2020 o 15:17, Tony Thigpen pisze: >> Christian, >> I was dismayed too when I first discovered this limitation. The OSA-C >> was originally intended to eliminate the local 3174 requirement. It >> was not really designed to replace the 3172-003, which is what many >> are using it for today. >> >> And, you also need to look back at the OSA-C's roots which was the >> 3274 emulation in the P370, P390 and the MP3000. >> >> Tony Thigpen >> >> Christian Svensson wrote on 7/19/20 8:40 AM: >>> Thanks for the input folks. >>> >>> Brian: I have it working just fine, the setup was easy as you said - the >>> reason I started this thread was because I couldn't understand why the >>> limitations on the TCP port number and the philosophy behind the >>> routing. >>> >>> It seems pretty weird to me that IBM implemented ICC this way, but hey - >>> I'm just a stranger on the internet :-) >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 06:52 Brian Westerman >>> <brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You can set up some of the ports to be local VTAM terminals, then >>>> you can >>>> use VISTA (or any 3270 emulator) to connect into the ICC port 3270, >>>> and use >>>> the LUNAME of the 3270 you defined as a local 3270 terminal. Since >>>> you can >>>> have over 100 terminals per port, making them all os consoles is a >>>> waste, >>>> so having a bunch of them as local 3270's that you can give to your >>>> carious >>>> LPARs (and use EE to connect to the LPARs they are not connected >>>> to), is a >>>> great way to use them. >>>> >>>> I like to make the first 16 to 32 devices OS consoles and the rest >>>> of them >>>> local 3270s. >>>> >>>> So you are using TCP to get to them inside the ICC, but they are >>>> technically local 3270 terminals. 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