Systems janitor.

Not to be confused with the guy that writes exits, panels, etc.


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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
Skip Robinson [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: System Programmer Titles

Good examples. What do we call a person who:

-- Installs a security product as delivered from the vendor
-- Tailors the product for use by the full range of users from admin to
programmer
-- Installs and tailors vendor-supplied updates/upgrades
-- Troubleshoots problems and obtains/installs fixes from the vendor

Does the same person perform all of the above tasks? With a single title?

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 11:06 AM Colin Paice <[email protected]> wrote:

> I found it helped to give examples outside of IT.
> Consider the security of your site.
>
>    1. The security administrator issues badges to visitors.
>    2. The security systems designer/programmer sets up the systems, decides
>    how many attack dogs you want patrolling the site, decides if you want
> to
>    use a paper and pen, or an online system.
>
> How about
> "I build systems"
> "I manage systems"
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 at 18:19, Carmen Vitullo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The company I am currently working for just revamped all the titles and
> > clumped us (MVS,AIX and WINDERS) into the same categories, I was a Lead
> > Systems programmer, now I'm a Systems Administrator Lead :(
> >
> >
> > Carmen Vitullo
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > From: Bobby <[email protected]>
> > To: IBM-MAIN <[email protected]>
> > Date: Monday, 11 October 2021 3:28 PM CDT
> > Subject: System Programmer Titles
> >
> > I asked this question back in 2004. My boss wants to know if there are
> any
> > new titles to add to the list below.
> >
> > Mainframe Engineer
> > Operating Systems Architect
> > Software Engineer
> > Software Project Specialist
> > Software Specialist
> > System Analyst
> > System Architect
> > System Engineer
> > System Programmer
> > Systems Programming Specialist
> > Systems Specialist
> > Technical Advisor
> > Technical Analyst
> > Technical Services Professional
> > Technical Specialist
> >
> > What title do you have as a system programmer?
> >
> > Bobby Herring
> > Texas Farm Bureau Insurance
> >
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf
> > Of Kirk Wolf
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2020 3:43 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: SFTP and z/OS Migration
> >
> > CAUTION: This email message originated from outside the organization. Do
> > not click on links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender
> and
> > know the content is safe.
> >
> > IBM z/OS OpenSSH is a base feature of z/OS since V2R2.
> > When you install a new version of z/OS you will get a new version.
> > There are often migration actions from IBM having to do with /etc/ssh
> > configuration settings. When moving releases you would at minimum want to
> > review any changes that you made from the IBM /samples and the new
> > /samples
> > and merge those as appropriate.
> >
> > BTW: Here's a quick start guide that we have on customizing IBM z/OS
> > OpenSSH:
> > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1f38rrJhQ1dSAzs32ZpoPFtjNGRTIAT_gJdeJGI8GsnaXMfviE-xu3Y8Sq8y8M_gjLZC7JPIu8Gy2sOr2ovVxob97vYAbC8jUuLsmvRJw-A-wx4jLoToYaJt6L6Sfv_GiDgoJ2hdGvp10SjZMRlWdu3PF9CseUZnxqUOD0DAWiR3fTrLIe1Su8pP6YtgwmRs9Tmod1IONIICWm0kgGRlzqVY-RXp8sJLufVGdpJlr0Vh6D0pivHBdal5uPVMkfONiG-IuKl2I3tcEBilzQkV6ugLH5EhGtM_0zYZW18YoF6kolsYbQST8zRX-JlCPHbzbdOwGoCPs2bHCQGLWD_pp8yINEAowAwTJLGT1msLfFGEM-HYQLxXT__SxiWII1v__ldLtOePjhurNgsUnx5hJaInH_a1vlvgDGMRatpSwixSkNrf0LPdZTTiCYTfLlLvW/https%3A%2F%2Fdovetail.com%2Fdocs%2Fpt-quick-inst%2Findex.html<
> > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1f38rrJhQ1dSAzs32ZpoPFtjNGRTIAT_gJdeJGI8GsnaXMfviE-xu3Y8Sq8y8M_gjLZC7JPIu8Gy2sOr2ovVxob97vYAbC8jUuLsmvRJw-A-wx4jLoToYaJt6L6Sfv_GiDgoJ2hdGvp10SjZMRlWdu3PF9CseUZnxqUOD0DAWiR3fTrLIe1Su8pP6YtgwmRs9Tmod1IONIICWm0kgGRlzqVY-RXp8sJLufVGdpJlr0Vh6D0pivHBdal5uPVMkfONiG-IuKl2I3tcEBilzQkV6ugLH5EhGtM_0zYZW18YoF6kolsYbQST8zRX-JlCPHbzbdOwGoCPs2bHCQGLWD_pp8yINEAowAwTJLGT1msLfFGEM-HYQLxXT__SxiWII1v__ldLtOePjhurNgsUnx5hJaInH_a1vlvgDGMRatpSwixSkNrf0LPdZTTiCYTfLlLvW/https%3A%2F%2Fdovetail.com%2Fdocs%2Fpt-quick-inst%2Findex.html>
> >
> > Kirk Wolf
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 p%3A%2F%2Fdovetail.com>
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 2:14 PM Roberto Halais <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Listers:
> > >
> > > My company has decided to forego FTP and go the SFTP way.
> > >
> > > I have installed OPENSSH and have SFTP working.
> > >
> > > I installed using the IBM user's guide and everything installed in the
> > > default libraries.
> > >
> > > My concern is, when we migrate to a new z/OS release do I have to do
> > > the whole install again?
> > >
> > > Can I, from the beginning, install all the SSH libraries in a different
> > > filesystem so that when I migrate I can just mount the filesystem and
> > > execute.
> > > And later on install the new version Openssh.
> > >
> > > Don't know if I am clear in what I am asking.
> > >
> > > Just some tips on facilitating installing under a new release.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
>
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> > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1JKP56SJVBmJfvIjexUzcjxoGiQUzlabviWojf27xDOfvNGxPPiEv76p_4QpyzCO2YDsGcdZ9WirPHdKA5SEmFW1ITIfoelFEbyiEt6nFn6khgD_7cHJktR4bI9WmaprSCiu2xPYp3RChfMV8HFtyRtxdtXNB1oV_GXYTJgytF_KqaIe6_KkdTJxBoEYAjnv8Y9zTT3kwsdKSbkCoVSCidnjl5P3afewySEbAxZf41lQlKyB6hpIEjm2fCaz3_vUyPohjyaeONxIaxFLy71JCy98tJVyE5-eGS5rOz71ahJyFLxIfiYDLJCHCphcuc_YBJDIrL89fknttoqZ3DpY6rnaudBWiHs77Jos6gqHN8eFpqLM-4UFLWvBUL8HWbstIxEjsNytMxUBfoS2T2RmDbcOCiDJ0V9ntM4B85dDfeE08uHoGnWyo_7lSaYNBWbB9/http%3A%2F%2FWWW.TXFB-INS.COM<http://secure-web.cisco.com/14MF1s1M-jdmrhKgl8aM811GwhwYtBuLTL3V1GQrP5N46JMSXNuoA-eL7V44s7WpFOzUxvqjVYhmbm1El0Hh0SzPe-6eEz0-eI9VxrwY3S91fhBAZteours1nDGPgsmEEU9duCBZGvkdQGtq-EkBJBH1T9zmvhw-tzKsWOWnAfqCRJCSSNw9KiDcabKxNKLq1mEyL_tRYeqbHH7v5bNy0009Rkopy9Ndm3_QLNlumchb4h8yJ7jSLPtPFr8imBh8ggB59OJJNmqWJ2zpXXxMOxAAE8U5zpVahP7K93flhx-L44vZXOB2Cv9tWcSJJ0LU4UKJDbaRjYcbU0j1rm-5DghSeQ87y2By-FYFKmGxMAale3RMQiY1hsHlb773FEoqnFIdcaiLaa9hSz7ji0xF8-i4x4scLR4ux3ugIprgrciR-SqBqZKFBuiQ3wdGYT4In!
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> >
> --
>

Skip Robinson
323-715-0595

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