If your installation has not disabled or deleted them, IBM standard VTAMLST 
defines a flexible log mode (D4C32XX3) that you can specify in the LOGON to 
VTAM.  I use this in a PCOMM script that I use to login to my employer's 
systems:

logon applid=xxxxxxxx,logmode=D4C32XX3

Where "xxxxxxxx" is my employer's system name.   This allows me to use a custom 
screen size (50x160) from PCOMM.

My ISPF terminal settings are:

Screen format   3       (MAX)
                  
Terminal Type   28      (3278L1 for code page setting 1047 which allows me to 
use "real" EBCDIC square brackets X'AD' and X'BD')

HTH

Peter

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Seymour J Metz
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 9:16 AM
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I forgot to mention that OSA-ICC is a TN3270 server that presents the 
appearance of a local non-SNA controller, which means that there is no exchange 
of BIND. What's in the LOGMODE that you're using?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf of 
Christian Svensson [[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, December 6, 2021 5:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: What determines the effective terminal size?

Hi folks,

I am trying to go back to basics a bit and figure out some things that I have 
always treated as magic.
Right now it is how a 3270 terminal connected to a z/OS determines the size of 
the terminal. In this case through OSA-ICC (zBC12, OSA-Express5) and not TCPIP,

On systems where I have configured VTAM with TCPIP the terminal size seems to 
almost always "just work".
Let's take a look at an example. I have configured X3270 with model "3279-4-E" 
and oversize set to "133x60".

1) What does the z/OS VTAM screen look like?
Over OSA-ICC: 80x24
Over TCPIP: 80x24

So far so good.

2) What does the TSO screen look like?
Over OSA-ICC: 80x24
Over TCPIP: 80x24

Ok, no change.

3) What does the ISPF screen look like?
Over OSA-ICC: 80x24
Over TCPIP: 133x60

Oh! But why? I do not know! Also, after I exit ISPF back to TSO, the TSO screen 
is now correctly filling the full screen!

I also note that z/VM's login screen seems to behave similarly. Over OSA-ICC 
the size seems to be fixed at 80x24, but over TCPIP it follows what I 
configured X3270 to use.
Dialing a z/OS VTAM terminal through the z/OS login screen (connected via
TCPIP) seems to result in a 133x60 screen both in TSO and ISPF. However if I 
ATTACH an OSA-ICC terminal straight to a z/OS guest, ISPF gets 133x60 but TSO 
only 80x24 - *but only if I reconnect to an existing user session.* If I log 
out and try to log in again I get IKT00405I "Screen erase caused by error 
recovery procedure".

As you can see I am a mess when it comes to understanding how this all fits 
together! It seems pretty much random to me, except that TCPIP "almost always 
works" and OSA-ICC "almost never works".
I would love to learn more, but I don't even know where to begin.

Regards,
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