Apologies if this seems rash. Certainly don't mean to belittle people's work; many are restricted with choices, procedures, etc. If it isn't for the cost of being an MF s/w vendor, competent new solutions would steal the show. Much like most of y'all, I want Z to remain king of the hill.
-KB ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, April 21st, 2022 at 9:06 AM, kekronbekron <[email protected]> wrote: > As an observer, I reckon IBM are forced to use OpenShift because they've got > to get RedHat in there. > Also, since everyone knows the word Docker now, the Z "has to have it". > Surely the industry is now waking up to the mess that is the Kubernetes > ecoystem mgmt., service MESS. > > I do wonder... for those who thought setting up zOSMF RACF was painful, what > their journey will be for zCX and OpenShift. > Just saying, "it's free because zIIP" doesn't make it good. > No Ferrari owner should be "compelled" to use a unicycle's wheel just because > it's free. > > IMHO, "Me too" solutions are seriously ruining the reputation of the Z with > the ridiculous CPU, memory, storage requirements. > I thought it was ridiculous that RDz wanted a few gigabytes of memory for the > JVM. > Rebadged oldware, with web stack & interface from early 2010s, are now coming > to compete with Chrome, in their lust for memory and such. > > - KB > ------- Original Message ------- > On Thursday, April 21st, 2022 at 4:22 AM, Tony Harminc [email protected] wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 at 18:00, Robert Garrett [email protected] wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > It likes a LOT of real memory and it appears that the running instance > > > consumes the full amount of real memory allocated to it for the duration, > > > making it unavailable to zOS for paging or any other use. Don't believe > > > the claim that it can run in as little > > > as 2GB. The experimental test instance that I built had 3GB allocated to > > > it (the most I could give it on the LPAR I was using) and it took a full > > > 15 minutes (yes minutes) by the clock for the address space to initialize > > > and reach the point where it was > > > functional - on every start up. Admittedly, this was on a zOS image that > > > was being hosted under zVM at IBM Dallas, so I'm sure that had some > > > impact. > > > > That smells like three levels of SIE, which to my understanding is > > never going to perform reasonably. > > > > Tony H. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
