CVS is 24/7 some pharmacies. Especially here in Texas. https://www.cvs.com/store-locator/cvs-pharmacy-locations/24-hour-pharmacies/Texas/Houston
Joe On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 5:52 AM Seymour J Metz <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps some are: CVS isn't. > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > ________________________________________ > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on behalf > of Bill Johnson [[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 4:21 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM > and AWS > > Most mainframes store transactions and process in batch? Are you the same > guy who didn’t know pharmacies are open 24 by 7? > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Sunday, June 19, 2022, 2:03 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On 20/06/2022 12:38 am, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Keep in mind that the mainframe can only do batch processing, with input > from cards. It doesn't support anything like CICS, IMS or Sabre.. > > What have transactional systems like CICS or IMS got to do with > real-time, straight-through processing? Most mainframe transactions > store data that is later processed by batch, typically overnight. In the > case of banking transactions that require inter-bank settlements this > can cause delays of several days. In Australia the government mandated > the NPP (New Payments Platform) which facilities instant payments using > payids, which can be an email address, cellphone numbers etc. The API is > a simple REST API using HTTP > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1cVCppuTlJ_nNLCyIpfi-pFWBClb6lq0nQl_7E--OgnADnbuDkYX8bcjtN6oIQ16B7sRfQ6OOuKQq5QEsgUNf1wFNw-vDdy4M0iIKKAuBN963Nz6gCY1jLEhKQkGKEoyGO9Z-wZYLbalLh_6t-yXF0tJt57oapuTFDOrG3GFsopnPGoLuZ4lhsE-QLh8nA4FrboD8IlzLKjbPsQj-pX4nCx-5TqIo8psGz3mESLroERbYAiILA7fDZwB43yTbn-VzeobnA6ekc_rpFTqhR0IQ5Sh4Edlu7N1EUQ58yn28hGb_a0yq75xJMnQiCxA0sU1Si67g84Rll_yCyt27ggj4mSC-Y501bGnMLip29-0IurTidywtHtLuc7WbjeLeon2CRuFO9mcnFZ5ZFvA_KT8equXAEbZ7tPu1HS-0BD6cCWjPwQggcoAS7FwZRvM34g_d/https%3A%2F%2Fnppa.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F10%2FNPP-API-Framework-v4.0-Final.pdf > . > It's my understanding that no bank implemented NPP on the mainframe. > From the presentations I've seen they used CDC to capture writes and > then published events to Kafka, which was fanned out to different > micro-services to do fraud detection, payments, push notifications etc. > Back in the day straight-through processing was a pipe dream which is > why we have overnight batch. It's a relic of applications written > decades ago for very different hardware platforms. > > > > It's much better to run Linux than to get an IFL, which can only run > batch. > > I have no idea what you mean? > > > > > Cynical? Moi? > > > > > > -- > > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > > ________________________________________ > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [[email protected]] on > behalf of David Crayford [[email protected]] > > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 2:36 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM > and AWS > > > > On 19/06/2022 5:23 am, Enzo D'Amato wrote: > >> I also agree, but as a non-insider, I wanted to know what others were > thinking. I also belive that in most cases, the effort spent trying to get > off the mainframe would be better spent actually fixing the code running on > it in the first place. Moving around broken code doesn't automatically fix > it. > > It's not just about fixing broken code. If you read the ING CIO's > > remarks about why they wanted off the mainframe it's not about the > > platform. Nobody denies that mainframes are insanely brilliant hardware > > platforms. ING wanted to get rid of batch and move towards an event > > driven architecture using pub/sub where they can easily deploy loosely > > coupled micro-services to provide cutting edge products. The technology > > stacks are built on open source such as Kafka, MongoDB, Cassandra, NiFi, > > Avro etc. The retail banking industry has been disrupted by fintechs so > > waiting for an overnight batch schedule for settlements is a competitive > > disadvantage. Cracking open and modernizing 50-60 year old COBOL batch > > applications is a VERY heavy lift. > > > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1GoiNO6FBPSWW0D9FZYVYixer1jsPeSd_xH-wmi6jMOC-onAkZQ4Pkf3c1UMGWbQeEprnkSWa1xGxz4vvn-LF0jVrCFlVVFZKQJ4Jti8nbQ7QchsOxhwNiwluJrdKkQP2nXXHQH2Ut2NNa9VChfVBIDR7Akw4ud6_pIXLAFXO5l73Sv-iLZFNU1MWWnLapWhhCKvytdzs7EJTvNZ2qbU8xwCdBEl1UkUuL-jHHZLk6xJPxAadVRWP1nuLz8i5AZrfvDI8u8rZ0V0DT77_Uvu8klHLbL9xe2qaYi1P6a6mc8r9Aj2jothGC-CR9cbCgb-JVXupgin9UctH5C_iVMyn_T-9jzZjtNyZDETxb8hXMU-BOuUz89MGu1nniZJ2tvSSN8yh5A6K-_It8fA10UFCfSBhOB0NVkwKL5M8A2BxZ9_e111GnxGK_PAbj0wh5fvU/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theregister.com%2F2016%2F07%2F01%2Fing_mainframe_strategy%2F > <- read > > the comments section. It's hilarious :) > > > > The doubly whammy is there's a skills crisis slowly unraveling. In the > > last year we've had 3 key resources move to 3 day weeks with a view to > > retiring. Replacing highly skilled assembler programmers with deep > > subsystem knowledge is proving to be difficult. Young people don't want > > to learn HLASM as they consider it a dead-end. Their position is "why > > invest 3-4 years learning a language that is useless if you move to > > another industry?" I can't comment about COBOL application developers. > > > > In 10 years time I expect the mainframe to be alive and kicking and > > significantly modernized. The small/medium shops will probably be all > > gone. When I first moved to my current town in 1998 there were 25-30 > > mainframe sites. Now there are 3 and 1 is on life support. One of our > > customers re-platformed their CICS/COBOL/Batch applications from a z9 to > > a single blade server. It doesn't make any sense financially for a small > > site to run a mainframe. > > > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1-2iTgedz9DPApFopeywjfCeLAkb4kS8D5gFCEDU1FxvGiDWA4ou6pqJyb1d_hBAvGUBtcA89RrAylX3opaG2YEyDaGkIhptpRdukdHvdGOJNKn5bruFlKlnigitV6PrV4n-6zInQkhkJJdSriM40VeYiNOpB8Pg3nTa5E6k6TTIOXSfdaiQOGk1Y6EXL4Xtu-wkeXJmwaPEZljVo3KuwR0K75lrsX8fDe2f2CjcjvfrM3ruLG4na4zrAU_pR4DViMh7bKBhJ35a94VHU7GR4Vh_mXKaYwtbhwnRJWR8gVkvYjmB2CjTOIxJE52bNN1-82_fpYopX-kZQntDkR4OKjvj-b1AV9yXlGQ3A-eGFbtuCb0_1t2R9tgZ5MqgMbzxGQKIf78I2U_xq8a9qYywx3_OgfQwbeMgd8fiatdC5CbUSlphDlQfSDw9sOErejC7z/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.itnews.com.au%2Fnews%2Fwa-insurance-commission-decommissions-mainframe-322780 > > > >> Get BlueMail for Android< > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1bcgENTOsK8XbQ24q-R3ISXJI_yYDqxq2wHDg7brpU3Np08gk-JU47Zv8dYAGOAWnxVTv-NWRXAx9s4JTmUJU07wHFT67zaiAPG32upxzSYnSiKIM6O3YI79ZGti7V-QdCWRtiBxOjLh3oMxNvzCcJgTTW-HQmmeQii1zDdP-GC1Rs0umn7xhevV0-PazdAun8gOm5P8Ld_gCw2UojSyXNKZKfmsqJPnt96XgISsJy9-_K81O2L5O-GDW2nxM7_C00lPjk0sF0iNqPQKNZAhVr0kk4TCoT4ePDBbBBUCUw6KfhxpkkhmUuo549OfnVRHweKCGYhEm5WE9nw-5khsn01oqKJxbv_y6P4BrO5DGw0QG7NfYwbUflAaNRV_ljL51KqrNoQV0AdEetiWauYmab1O_GjVvCOudxDs52JwrFXbWBbqEqxhU7qQ3TS--F13f/https%3A%2F%2Fbluemail.me > > > >> On Jun 18, 2022, at 5:13 PM, Charles Mills <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > >> > >> I always like the stories about the companies that are in the eighth > year of > >> a three-year project to get off the mainframe. > >> > >> Enzo, my friend, you have just kicked the hornets' nest! You had better > >> duck, because the onslaught is coming. "The mainframe is [not] dead" is > near > >> and dear to the hearts of IBM-MAINers. > >> > >> Yes, I think the consensus is that the mainframe has a future. IBM > seems to > >> be focused mainly on the very largest shops, so the trend seems to be > bigger > >> and bigger machines at fewer and fewer companies. But it is hard to > envision > >> Bank of America balancing their checking accounts every day on an array > of > >> Windows servers, in their datacenter or in the cloud. My reading of the > tea > >> leaves -- I am not an insider -- is that for a long time IBM was > *saying* > >> the mainframe was here to stay but internally they did not believe it > and > >> were not making decisions on that basis -- but I think that has now > changed. > >> IBM appears to have made a HUGE investment in the z16, an investment > that > >> will take more than 5 or more years to recoup. > >> > >> Welcome aboard! > >> > >> Charles > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On > >> Behalf Of Enzo D'Amato > >> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:56 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM > and > >> AWS > >> > >> As someone who is new to this field, and hasn't been though a wave of > "the > >> mainframe is going away" yet, will there still be companies running the > >> mainframe 5 or 10 years down the line? Also, when I read about companies > >> trying to get off of the mainframe, how often do these efforts end up > >> succeeding? > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> on > behalf of > >> Mike Schwab <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 12:04 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Modernize Mainframe Applications for Hybrid Cloud with IBM > and > >> AWS > >> > >> Moshix signed up for an AWS instance, loaded up Hercules and Turnkey > >> 4-, got it going, and allowed some other people to log in. > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 8:31 AM Bill Johnson > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Cloud - Something the mainframe has been doing for decades. We > called it > >> outsourcing. GM ran their entire organization out of mainframes in > >> Charlotte, Dallas, & perhaps another in the 80's. The internet just > made it > >> easier, and less secure & reliable. Brought outsourcing to a wider > audience. > >> > >> Mainframe modernization. An oxymoron. Like saying today's cars are > like > >> cars from 50 years ago. The mainframe is more advanced than any other > >> platforms. Billions of dollars of investment and patented technologies > have > >> guaranteed its place for decades to come. > >> > >> Sure, AWS, Azure, Oracle cloud & numerous others are creating cheap, > >> unsecured, unreliable, platforms for small businesses, picture storage, > >> emails, instant messaging, and many other tasks that aren't show > stoppers if > >> they're hacked or down for one of many reasons. As Capital One found > out and > >> lost almost 200 million for the pleasure. > >> > >> I enjoy the glee that many of you exude when IBM has what might be > >> perceived as negative news. I saw the same glee when in the 90's some > idiot > >> said the mainframe would be history circa 2000. > >> > >> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > >> > >> > >> On Friday, June 17, 2022, 9:06 AM, zMan <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:50 AM David Crayford <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Maybe it's the case that customers don't want to use IBMs cloud. > Where I > >> live in Australia the big four banks are moving significant chunks of > >> their infrastructure to public cloud and have government legislation > to > >> do so. NAB in particular have been quite aggressive, although like > most > >> sensible enterprises they have gone down the multi-cloud route with > >> Microsoft Azure so they don't have all their eggs in one basket. > >> > >> It will be interesting to see if IBM can close the cloud gap. Playing > >> catch-up is difficult when competing with behemoths with a decade+ > head > >> start. > >> > >> > >> Indeed. Word from insiders is that since IBM "management" have > decided > >> cloud is The Answer, folks have started playing games, like > attributing > >> all > >> CICS-related revenue as "cloud". Q4 2020, IBM claimed $6.2B in cloud > >> revenue on total revenue of $16B. Given that nobody EVER says"cloud" > and > >> "IBM" in the same sentence in the real world, those numbers are quite > >> difficult to believe without this kind of gameplaying. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO > IBM-MAIN > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA > >> Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
