I would hope converter/interpreter. If not, then instream substitution would 
not be available for Started Tasks.

I have not read the announcement in any detail.

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


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> On Behalf Of John McKown
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 10:52 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: 32760? (was: PARMDD?)
> 
> Just a question that may be a bit pedantic. It is JES doing the
> substitution (a HASPnnnn program) or is it the converter/interpreter? I
> guess the main reason is to determine who to yell at. <grin/>
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Walt Farrell
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:21:59 -0500, Paul Gilmartin
> <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I have an "outlying case" to test my understanding:
> > >
> > >//  SET  FOO='&WOM'
> > >//  SET  BAR=BAT
> > >//  SET  WOMBAT='SDB=YES'
> > >//*
> > >//STEP     EXEC PGM=IEBGENER,PARMDD=SYSUT1
> > >//SYSUT2    DD  SYSOUT=(,)
> > >//SYSUT1    DD  *,SYMBOLS=JCL
> > >&FOO&BAR
> > >//SYSIN     DD  DUMMY
> > >//SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT=(,)
> > >
> > >Since symbols are substituted when SYSUT1 is created and GET
> > >performs no further transformation, the line written to SYSUT2
> > >is "&WOMBAT".  I'm pretty confident of that.
> > >
> > >But when SYSUT1 is processed as PARMDD, are symbols also
> > >resolved by the initiator, since "the JCL symbol values are known"
> > >and it's not too late, so the PARM passed to IEBGENER is
> > >"SDB=YES"?
> >
> > I think your understanding has a flaw, gil. As I understand the
> > discussion, it is not the initiator doing the substitution. If it were,
> > then symbols in non-instream PARMDD data sets would work. Rather, it is
> JES
> > doing the substitution. The initiator merely passes along whatever GET
> > provided, and GET in turn merely passes along exactly what was in the
> > non-instream data set, or whatever JES provided for an instream data set.
> >
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