This is an interesting piece by 2 people, Jonathan Koomey & Eric Masanet who 
appear to be experts in data center electrical usage. They point out the flaws  
in some analysis.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2542435121002117

Their analysis was also in the NY Times.


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On Saturday, February 11, 2023, 3:23 PM, Doug <d...@bkassociates.net> wrote:

I'd love to see the raw data they based this "research" on.

I have ALWAYS found, "If it sounds too good to be true, its usually 
is...."


Doug Fuerst

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Subject: Re: Irish data centers....an opportunity?

>I don’t know, but I imagine there is more detail in the scientific study it’s 
>based on. I don’t have access to it.
>
>The study findings were published on Thursday in an article in the journal 
>Science. It was a collaboration of five scientists at Northwestern University, 
>the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and an independent research firm. 
>The project was funded by the Department of Energy and by a grant from a 
>Northwestern alumnus who is an environmental philanthropist.
>
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>On Saturday, February 11, 2023, 1:22 PM, Paul Gilmartin 
><0000042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 17:40:21 +0000, Bill Johnson wrote:
>>    ...
>>The digital services churned out by the world’s computer centers are 
>>multiplying, but their energy use is not, thanks to cloud computing, a new 
>>study says.
>>
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>>  - Post on Twitter
>>  - Mail
>>
>Are these ranked?  Actual numbers would be interesting.  "Mail" surprises me.  
>But I mail few
>resources and I don't quote attachments.  In fact, I prune quotations.
>
>>    ...
>>The largest cloud data centers, sometimes the size of football fields, are 
>>owned and operated by big tech companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon and 
>>Facebook.
>>    ...
>>Over the years, data center electricity consumption has been a story of 
>>economic incentives and technology advances combining to tackle a problem.
>>
>Do they use:
>o IBM z?
>o IBM supercomputers?
>o Others, such as overseas-sourced (specify)?
>
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>gil
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