The RMF Work Delay monitor (monitor3)  can show you why each task is
delayed, and what resource is holding it up
eg /f rmf,start III
TSO RMFWDM
option *2*  (2 JOBS            All information about job delays
Enter your TSO userid
selection 8 for delays by processor

or go back to home screen,  3 resources, 1/1a for processor delays

or option PD or PU

it samples the syste, over about a minute or two.

Colin

On Mon, 7 Aug 2023 at 13:53, Allan Staller <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Classification: Confidential
>
> In that case, either the capacity  (or weight) of the LPAR will need to be
> increased, or as another suggested, give access to another CP.
> The only other thing you can do is get with the DB2 folks to see if they
> can do something with the restore process.
>
> HTH,
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Of rpinion865
> Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 7:34 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS performance question
>
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> While adjusting the WLM definitions might help TSO, I would like to add
> that I put my TSO userid in SYSSTC.  Even running in that service class my
> TSO response is sluggish.
>
>
>
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> ------- Original Message -------
> On Monday, August 7th, 2023 at 8:30 AM, Allan Staller <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> > Classification: Confidential
> >
> > Ok. You zre using 2 period TSO Service Defs. I suggest you adjust the
> period 1 duration until 96% (vs. 90%) of transactions end in period one.
> > There is no easy way to measure this in advance. The RMF Service Class
> Period report will however show the results after the fact.
> >
> > Increase the duration of period one and look at the RM report. Wash,
> rinse, repeat until the desired goal is achieved. Beyond that, I do not
> believe there can be much done. IIRC the DB2MSTR address space either runs
> at IMP 1 or in the SYSSTC service class.
> >
> > Speculating (I am not a DB2 expert) if commits can be take during the
> restore, it might help.
> >
> > Wish I could help more.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] On Behalf
> > Of rpinion865
> >
> > Sent: Friday, August 4, 2023 12:12 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: z/OS performance question
> >
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> >
> > I am working with the Development LPAR (SC08D3). Below is the TSO
> service class definition for that LPAR.
> >
> > Service Class Name . . . . . : TSOSC
> >
> > Description . . . . . . . . . TSO Production and Development
> >
> > Workload Name . . . . . . . . TSO (name or ?)
> >
> > Base Resource Group . . . . . ________ (name or ?)
> >
> > Cpu Critical . . . . . . . . . NO (YES or NO)
> >
> > I/O Priority Group . . . . . . NORMAL (NORMAL or HIGH)
> >
> > Honor Priority . . . . . . . . DEFAULT (DEFAULT or NO)
> >
> >
> >
> > Specify BASE GOAL information. Action Codes: I=Insert new period,
> >
> > E=Edit period, D=Delete period.
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Period -- ------------------- Goal -------------------
> >
> > Action # Duration Imp. Description
> >
> > __ _ _________ _ ________________________________________
> >
> > __ 1 500 1 90% complete within 00:00:00.060
> >
> > __ 2 _________ 4 Execution velocity of 40
> >
> > Next, is a mangled text view of the Development (SC08D3) LPAR definition.
> > Customize Image Profiles: Z15A:SC08D3 : SC08D3 : Processor Turn on
> context sensitive help.
> > Collapse Z15A:SC08D3
> > Collapse SC08D3
> > General
> > Processor
> > Security
> > Storage
> > Options
> > Load
> > Crypto
> > Group Name
> >
> > <Not Assigned>
> >
> > Open or close the list box
> > Logical Processor Assignments
> > Dedicated processors
> > Select
> > Processor Type
> > Initial
> > Reserved
> > Selected
> > Central processors (CPs)
> > 1
> > 0
> > Selected
> > z Integrated Information Processors (zIIPs)
> > 1
> > 0
> > Not Dedicated Processor Details for:
> > CPs
> > zIIPs
> > CP Details
> > Initial processing weight
> > 60
> > 1 to 999
> > Initial capping
> > Enable workload manager
> > Minimum processing weight
> > 0
> > Maximum processing weight
> > 0
> > Absolute Capping
> > None
> > Number of processors
> > (0.01 to 255.0)
> > 0.18
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > ------- Original Message -------
> > On Thursday, August 3rd, 2023 at 12:17 PM, Allan Staller
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Classification: Confidential
> > >
> > > You did not say where the TSO response time issues were being
> observed. I suspect, from the information provided it is on
> SC08D3(possible) or SC14D4 (most likely).
> > >
> > > If you look, I suspect the majority of CPU consumption is from the
> *MSTR DB2 address space. DB2 will charge this back to the "user". This
> address space is most likely running in the SYSSTC Service class.
> > >
> > > I suggest you look at the service class definitions for TSO. At least
> 80% of all transactions should end in TSO Service Class Period 1, 80 % of
> the rest in TSO Service Class Period 2 (16%) and the remainder in TSO
> Service Class period 3 (4 %). Another variation could be TSO Service Class
> Period 1 at 96% and TSO Service Class Period 2 4%; No TSO Service Class
> Period 3.
> > >
> > > Depending on the scheme chosen above, except for the last TSO Service
> Class, all should run as importance 1. They may have different performance
> goals, but the importance should be 1.
> > >
> > > " From the activation profile for Development (SC08D3) the Processor
> definition has the absolute Capping box Number of processors box set to
> 0.18.”. This sentence does not make sense as written.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [email protected] On
> > > Behalf Of rpinion865
> > >
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 10:10 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: z/OS performance question
> > >
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> > >
> > > Let me start off by saying I am not a z/OS performance and capacity
> planning expert. If anything, I am a novice. I am looking for a trivial
> answer to a non-trivial question.
> > > We have a z15 (8562-T02) running three z/OS 2.4 LPAR's, Production
> (SC10D1), Development (SC08D3), and Sysprog (SC14D4). Below is information
> from the RMF Partition Report. My question/problem is this. On the
> Development LPAR, when a DB2 database restore job runs, the MVS Busy goes
> to 100% as seen from both SDSF DA and RMF CPU reports. Most of the CPU Busy
> goes to the DB2 restore job. The batch job runs in a discretionary service
> class, and TSO users run in a higher service class with goal mode. But,
> response time for the TSO users gets long, 3 to 5 seconds between enter
> keys, ISPF screen swaps etc.. Normally the TSO response time is sub-second.
> As you can see, the Development LPAR has one Logical CP defined. Based on
> the capping characteristics of Development as displayed below, would adding
> another Logical CP help TSO response time?
> > >
> > > 1 P A R T I T I O N D A T A R E P O R T PAGE 3 z/OS V2R4 SYSTEM ID
> > > SC10 DATE 08/01/2023 INTERVAL 14.59.992 RPT VERSION V2R4 RMF TIME
> > > 05.45.00 CYCLE 1.000 SECONDS
> > > -
> > > MVS PARTITION NAME SC10D1 PHYS PROC NUM 5 LP GROUP NAME N/A INITIAL
> > > CAP NO IMAGE CAPACITY 138 CP 2 2 LIMIT N/A LPAR HW CAP NO NUMBER OF
> > > CONFIGURED PARTITIONS 5 ICF 1 AVAILABLE N/A HW GROUP CAP NO WAIT
> > > COMPLETION NO IIP 2 2 ABS MSU CAP NO DISPATCH INTERVAL DYNAMIC
> > >
> > > MVS PARTITION NAME SC08D3 PHYS PROC NUM 5 LP GROUP NAME N/A INITIAL
> > > CAP NO IMAGE CAPACITY 10 CP 2 1 LIMIT N/A LPAR HW CAP YES NUMBER OF
> > > CONFIGURED PARTITIONS 5 ICF 1 AVAILABLE N/A HW GROUP CAP NO WAIT
> > > COMPLETION NO IIP 2 1 ABS MSU CAP NO DISPATCH INTERVAL DYNAMIC
> > > -
> > > ------------ PARTITION DATA ------------------
> > > ----MSU---- --CAPPING---
> > > NAME S BT WGT DEF ACT DEF WLM% NUM TYPE
> > > SC10D1 A N 999 138 27 N N N 0.0 2.0 CP
> > > SC08D3 A N 60 10 3 N Y N 0.0 1.0 CP (1)
> > > SC14D4 A N 18 4 2 N N N 0.0 1.0 CP
> > > TOTAL 1077
> > >
> > > - From the activation profile for Development (SC08D3) the Processor
> definition has the absolute Capping box Number of processors box set to
> 0.18.
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