>I think that part of this disagreement is that most of my opponents here is, 
>more or less, sysprogs.  And as such they haven't experienced the amount of 
>time needed and lost at space allocation problems that lots and lots of jobs 
>and applications are generating.

We're not opponents (nor adversaries); we're just trying to understand, and (if 
possible) help those who really do want it.

I've been involved in space/DASD management for over 30 years.
And, I HAVE experienced it all!
As the technology evolves, the problems should reduce (if not, be totally 
eliminated) if your storage people are on the ball.

>Not to mention that you have to deal with many products that in practice have 
>a lot of unsatisfying allocations that you NOT have the time to through in 
>hundreds of scripts or jobs whenever a new version arrives. 

If you're in applications, why you involved to this level of detail?
That's up to Production Support, Change Management, Storage and (most likely) 
System Programming.

You've turned a simple and, as demonstrated, solvable ISPF problem into tilting 
at the windmill of every space problem in your shop. 

And, it's NOT even your windmill!
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Ted MacNEIL
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Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

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