> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 10:55 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: B37 för FTINCL in ISPF for userid.ISPnnnnn.SPFTEMPn.WORK > datasets > > >I think that part of this disagreement is that most of my opponents > here is, more or less, sysprogs. And as such they haven't experienced > the amount of time needed and lost at space allocation problems that > lots and lots of jobs and applications are generating. > > We're not opponents (nor adversaries); we're just trying to understand, > and (if possible) help those who really do want it. > > I've been involved in space/DASD management for over 30 years. > And, I HAVE experienced it all! > As the technology evolves, the problems should reduce (if not, be > totally eliminated) if your storage people are on the ball. > > >Not to mention that you have to deal with many products that in > practice have a lot of unsatisfying allocations that you NOT have the > time to through in hundreds of scripts or jobs whenever a new version > arrives. > > If you're in applications, why you involved to this level of detail?
Maybe you haven't then "experienced it all" ? (Applications is not just "business applications...) > That's up to Production Support, Change Management, Storage and (most > likely) System Programming. They couldn't care less. BTW, Change Management in itself contains one of the problem applications... > > You've turned a simple and, as demonstrated, solvable ISPF problem into > tilting at the windmill of every space problem in your shop. > > And, it's NOT even your windmill! It is, when you are the one having problems with it. Regards Thomas Berg ____________________________________________________________________ Thomas Berg Specialist z/OS\RQM\IT Delivery SWEDBANK AB (Publ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
