What's going to happen with your next CPU purchase? Delay transfer to new computer until they get around to it?
I would consider alternatives. On Thu, Dec 18, 2025 at 4:31 PM Pommier, Rex <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ken, > > Amazing isn't the word we used for this fiasco. LOL Every other product > we are running either has a grace period where we can run the software for a > limited period without even needing a key or their web site has a DR key > generator function where we can simply plug in our serial and model, and > they'll immediately hand us a limited duration key. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Ken Bloom > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2025 3:53 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: DR test question > > Hi Rex > > That’s pretty amazing! For sites that strictly use our vtl or DASD products, > we just “transfer” the license from production to DR. In reality both sides > are licensed all the time, we just do it as a courtesy > > Ken > > > Kenneth A. Bloom > CEO > Avenir Technologies Inc > /d/b/a Visara International > 203-984-2235<tel:203-984-2235> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.visara.com__;!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pcSqUF5v4z2jeGKWeXidLnCSSZkY7IOoEkR8e4qt_iRkIFlMOOJh4gGHMHoPqzPNDglwKzf3aFkENQY$ > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.visara.com/__;!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pcSqUF5v4z2jeGKWeXidLnCSSZkY7IOoEkR8e4qt_iRkIFlMOOJh4gGHMHoPqzPNDglwKzf3N8gHJOM$ > > > > > On Dec 18, 2025, at 4:38 PM, Pommier, Rex > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just as a follow-up/closure to this strangeness, we had to move the vendor's > software libraries to non-replicated disk. So now, when we run a DR test, we > need to bring the system up on the replicated disk, get the VTS tapes online, > restore the volume the software is on, before we can test their software. > All this on top of needing to contact them to get a DR key for their software > because it has no grace period for DR testing. We're seriously considering > just moving their software to "out of scope" for DR tests because dealing > with them is such a hassle. For our last DR test we had contacted them well > in advance of the test and never did get keys. > > Rex > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Steely.Mark > Sent: Friday, December 5, 2025 12:18 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: DR test question > > We had the same issue with a vendor - currently looking for a replacement for > that product.... > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of > Pommier, Rex > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2025 12:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: DR test question > > ! > > CAUTION! EXTERNAL SENDER! STOP, ASSESS, AND VERIFY Do you know this person? > Were you expecting this email? If not, report it using the Report Phishing > Button! > > Hi list, > > I know this sounds bizarre - and it is to me. Our DR/backup process is that > we have a second site that we are doing full disk replication of our DS8K > (async) to our second datacenter. We also perform nightly/weekly backups to > our local TS7K, which is also replicated to our second site. The tape > backups are then copied from the TS7K to physical TS11xx tapes (I don't > remember what generation offhand) in a TS4500 at the second site for a > tertiary offsite backup. We have a CBU machine at the offsite location that > once a year we fire it up, carve off a "test" set of disk volumes, bring up > our production LPARs in the DR environment and conclude our test well before > the 10 day CBU test speed-up is over. > > Here's my question for others who have similar setups. Do you have to pay > any of your third party vendors an extra license fee for the ability to run > their software at the DR site? We just got out of a meeting with a vendor > which will remain nameless to protect the guilty who informed us that since > we can "bring our DR system up so fast because we're replicating their > software to the second site" that we need to pay a second site license for > their software. The rest of our third party vendors either don't even need a > DR key or they just provide it as a courtesy for running a DR test. > > Offline responses are fine with me as I don't want any of you to get in > trouble with this vendor... > > Thanks, > > Rex Pommier > > Rpommier at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https*3a*2f*2fsfgmembers.com&c=E,1,bjNnjsIfc3H5qsyR25tsguYACc2k20aKNNEWFBA0yZOaRo7Qt8X75ydytvgR9N4L0Q7BbLw9Yfw0Q74WQ9KE7Kw5JRX5fvRnERHihyN6jZgHUGom2A,,&typo=1__;JSUl!!KjMRP1Ixj6eLE0Fj!pcSqUF5v4z2jeGKWeXidLnCSSZkY7IOoEkR8e4qt_iRkIFlMOOJh4gGHMHoPqzPNDglwKzf3aA7sosk$ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to > [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
