My guess would be to contact an existing union that seemed relevant. SEIU? IBEW? CWA? OPEIU?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_labor_unions_in_the_United_States

Charles

On 2/6/2026 8:38 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:
Ok Charles. How do we as a group in the United States start a trade union and 
publish our fee schedule?



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On Feb 6, 2026, at 10:30, Steve Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

Yeah but we rejected that when the state of NJ decided that systems 
programmers should fall under Cosmetology, while about the same period Texas 
was pursuing those claiming to be engineers that had not been granted such a 
legal title. This involved IBM who had CEs (Customer Engineers), and the like.

NaSPA (National association of Systems programmers- can't remember what the "A" 
stood for) was alive at that time, as was an informal group of computer 
contractors/consultants.

No, I'm not kidding, I didn't make it up. Scott Sherer was the Pres of NaSPA and he 
retired and Radi Shurbaji (I think that was how he spelled it -- we worked at Boole 
& Babbage about the same time) manged to become the president and it then tried 
to be all things to all people and it collapsed. (Mainframe, Windows, networking, 
etc. etc.)

RMPCP continued as a group (contractor/consultants) until Robert M. Pritchett 
died.     Sigh.



On 2/6/2026 11:02 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The traditional solution to this problem is a trade union.

Just sayin'

Charles

On 2/5/2026 6:01 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
Tom. My point is if we all push back to
the Indian recruiters for a sold month the point will get made. Most recruiters 
constantly call even if you are working you push back and help the community at 
large



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On Feb 5, 2026, at 18:52, Tom Brennan<[email protected]> wrote:

Ok, I need a job to eat, but instead of eating at $60 an hour I'll hold out 
for $120.  The BMI chart says I'm just a smidge into the overweight category, 
so I should be ok for a couple of weeks.

On 2/5/2026 11:09 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:
If we ALL push back all at the same time recruiters and companies will get the 
point


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