Ok Charles. How do we as a group in the United States start a trade union and 
publish our fee schedule?



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> On Feb 6, 2026, at 10:30, Steve Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Yeah but we rejected that when the state of NJ decided that systems 
> programmers should fall under Cosmetology, while about the same period Texas 
> was pursuing those claiming to be engineers that had not been granted such a 
> legal title. This involved IBM who had CEs (Customer Engineers), and the like.
> 
> NaSPA (National association of Systems programmers- can't remember what the 
> "A" stood for) was alive at that time, as was an informal group of computer 
> contractors/consultants.
> 
> No, I'm not kidding, I didn't make it up. Scott Sherer was the Pres of NaSPA 
> and he retired and Radi Shurbaji (I think that was how he spelled it -- we 
> worked at Boole & Babbage about the same time) manged to become the president 
> and it then tried to be all things to all people and it collapsed. 
> (Mainframe, Windows, networking, etc. etc.)
> 
> RMPCP continued as a group (contractor/consultants) until Robert M. Pritchett 
> died.     Sigh.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/6/2026 11:02 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
>> The traditional solution to this problem is a trade union.
>> 
>> Just sayin'
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>>> On 2/5/2026 6:01 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
>>> Tom. My point is if we all push back to
>>> the Indian recruiters for a sold month the point will get made. Most 
>>> recruiters constantly call even if you are working you push back and help 
>>> the community at large
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> No one said I could type with one thumb
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 5, 2026, at 18:52, Tom Brennan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I need a job to eat, but instead of eating at $60 an hour I'll hold 
>>>> out for $120.  The BMI chart says I'm just a smidge into the overweight 
>>>> category, so I should be ok for a couple of weeks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/5/2026 11:09 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:
>>>>> If we ALL push back all at the same time recruiters and companies will 
>>>>> get the point
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