Yeah but we rejected that when the state of NJ decided that
systems programmers should fall under Cosmetology, while about
the same period Texas was pursuing those claiming to be engineers
that had not been granted such a legal title. This involved IBM
who had CEs (Customer Engineers), and the like.
NaSPA (National association of Systems programmers- can't
remember what the "A" stood for) was alive at that time, as was
an informal group of computer contractors/consultants.
No, I'm not kidding, I didn't make it up. Scott Sherer was the
Pres of NaSPA and he retired and Radi Shurbaji (I think that was
how he spelled it -- we worked at Boole & Babbage about the same
time) manged to become the president and it then tried to be all
things to all people and it collapsed. (Mainframe, Windows,
networking, etc. etc.)
RMPCP continued as a group (contractor/consultants) until Robert
M. Pritchett died. Sigh.
On 2/6/2026 11:02 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
The traditional solution to this problem is a trade union.
Just sayin'
Charles
On 2/5/2026 6:01 PM, Steve Beaver wrote:
Tom. My point is if we all push back to
the Indian recruiters for a sold month the point will get
made. Most recruiters constantly call even if you are working
you push back and help the community at large
Sent from my iPhone
No one said I could type with one thumb
On Feb 5, 2026, at 18:52, Tom
Brennan<[email protected]> wrote:
Ok, I need a job to eat, but instead of eating at $60 an
hour I'll hold out for $120. The BMI chart says I'm just a
smidge into the overweight category, so I should be ok for a
couple of weeks.
On 2/5/2026 11:09 AM, Steve Beaver wrote:
If we ALL push back all at the same time recruiters and
companies will get the point
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