In our case adding an OSC card (actually 2 for redundancy) meant adding a IO Drawer - Cost prohibitive. Add to that the lost ability to use both ports on a card (one for OSC and one for OSA ) due to the shared CHPID was a problem.
Jerry Whitteridge Lead Systems Programmer Safeway Inc. 925 951 4184 If you feel in control you just aren't going fast enough. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510 Dummy question but what about OSC's.... still valid for Console support? From: Ed Jaffe <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 07/28/2013 11:14 AM Subject: Re: VISARA Consoles FICON Get 505, 510 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On 7/28/2013 3:11 AM, George Henke wrote: > We have learned that the Visara FICON product has only 5 customers and has > been available for only since Jan 1. > > This looks and feels more like beta testing, the bleeding edge, than > implementation of a real product, > > The omission of ESCON from the zEC12 is proving to be a fatal mistake. It > is forcing us to use these kind of unvetted products. Visara's FICON-based solution first appeared in January 2013. That's only four months after IBM confirmed publicly, via their August 2012 zEC12 announcement, that the new machines would not offer ESCON. ISVs, business partners and others saw zEC12 previews a couple of months before the official August 2012 announcement. So, best-case for Visara is 4-6 months lead-time. I'm certainly no hardware expert, but 4-6 months seems like a very short amount of time. I'm not surprised to learn that "bugs" in the firmware are still being ironed out. > These kind of HW oversights are reminiscent of the days when IBM > prematurely converted from powerful Bi-Polar chips to underpowdered CMOS > chips and customers had to flee back to the Bi-Polar boxes. > > When will IBM learn. It's been three years since the IBM's July 2010 SOD first warned that z196/z114 would be the last generation to offer ESCON channels. Sometimes IBM reverses SODs (IMBED/REPLICATE is a good example), so I can't really blame Visara for not gearing up to develop a FICON-only solution based solely on an IBM SOD. They had to wait for "official" confirmation. I'm really not sure what IBM should have done differently in this case, but I imagine there will be no shortage of opinions on this list... ;) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN "Email Firewall" made the following annotations. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain proprietary information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. ============================================================================== ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
