While the most obvious value of STP may be synchronization of multiple z 
CECs in a glass house, it is invaluable for synchronizing all z CECs with 
the rest of the enterprise. Like many shops, we have a boatload of Unix 
and x86 servers that all participate in running the business in concert 
with each other. STP allows us to synchronize z with the standard 
corporate NTP time server in both multi- and single-CEC environments. We 
never could do that with the old sysplex timers. 

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JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
[email protected]



From:   "Joel C. Ewing" <[email protected]>
To:     [email protected], 
Date:   09/12/2013 07:08 AM
Subject:        Re: NTP server with System z for PCI-DSS compliance
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>



On 09/12/2013 06:55 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> In
> <of811b14da.8838eb3f-on48257be4.0035cc4f-48257be4.00386...@sg.ibm.com>,
> on 09/12/2013
>    at 06:14 PM, Timothy Sipples <[email protected]> said:
> 
>> OK, so that's where you'd like to draw the "no additional
>> charge"/"separately chargeable" line.
> 
> I can see several possibilities. In order of preference:
> 
>  1. Using NTP to set the TOD forward by a small amount.
> 
>  2. Using NTP to set a virtual TOD forward by a small amount.
> 
>  3. Using NTP to set the TOD at the next POR.
> 
> Note that I am not suggesting the ability to set the TOD backwards,
> nor do I consider it desirable to use clock steering to correct major
> discrepancies unless an IPL is totally unacceptable.
> 
> Have their been any discussions at Share about this issue? I assume
> that it's only the small shops that would be interested; the large
> ones presumably need STP due to multi-CEC configurations.
> 

Forward-only nudging wouldn't be very useful unless the TOD clock was
also deliberately designed to always run a hair slow (is it?).  Perhaps
that can be done and yet have TOD relative accuracy still good enough
for those installations not using any external time synchronization that
need TOD drift to be "minimal".

Although conceptually I like the idea of being able to provide a cheaper
NTP option, if you allow z/OS time to jump discontinuously as on UNIX
systems with NTP and that happens very often, you will be introducing
strange anomalies into SMF data that might make it impossible to rely on
measured transaction response times.  I would say proceed with caution.

-- 
Joel C. Ewing,    Bentonville, AR       [email protected] 


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