OT in a mainframe forum, but why the desperate need to reduce software costs for z/enterprise platforms? Surely management could make more savings by using open source software on end-user platforms rather than Windoze rubbish (e.g. OpenOffice instead of Microsoft Office, which, as usual, needs to change look/feel every release, and force everyone from technical support on down to users to re-train and re-certify).
Don't bother to reply. I know the answer. Gutless mangers/auditors that feel safe with a support contract (more money wasted). Oops. Ant. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Friday, 4 October 2013 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities? BTW, I have successfully compiled and tested the basic lua 5.2.2 which I downloaded from http://lua.org/download.html . It was basically just download, unwind the tar using pax and converting from ISO8859-1 to IBM-1047, then doing a "make posix". But I don't know what else I should really look at trying to port. Or exactly how to do it. On Linux, I use git as an SCM. But I don't having anything like that for z/OS on the system that I'm using (not my employer's). I don't know lua and don't have any test suite, unfortunately. And I've just not been "with it" so far this week as far as just messing around with it myself. I don't know how much use having the basic lua would be. I could probably package it up for the CBTTape and give it to Mr. Golob to put on the CBTTape web site. On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 8:27 PM, David Crayford <[email protected]> wrote: > On 4/10/2013 8:31 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote: > >> Good thread. >> >> I like Kirks ideas, but I can't see it flying. IIRC even Dave has alluded >> to employer resistance to releasing his efforts on the Lua port. >> > > The issue wrt me releasing Lua is because of our contract with IBM. I work > for a vendor who develops software that's badged and marketed by IBM. The > deal we signed for our > machine had a clause that states that we can only use it to develop > software for IBM products. There are options, such as a zPDT laptop or > Dallas. I've had discussions with the management > team about it and they're a good bunch of guys. I'm sure something will > happen sooner rather than later. > > I don't port software for the fun of it. I do it because it's going to be > useful. The other day my colleague was trying to write a web application > for a test case in Java, deploying to Websphere. It > took him almost a week, trying to understand the frameworks. It wasn't > easy to the neophyte with the EAR and WAR and all that stuff. I could have > knocked that up in a couple of hours in Lua in > 200 lines of code. That's a real life use case. It's not going into one of > our products but it saves time and money. > > > Every employment contract I've seen includes ownership of code developed >> - and isn't limited to the employment duration. There have even been >> suggestions that this may include ideas conceived as a result of (paid) >> work, even if not coded/developed there/then. >> >> Shane ... >> >> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ---------- >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, >> send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >> > > ------------------------------**------------------------------**---------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > -- I have _not_ lost my mind! It is backed up on a flash drive somewhere. Maranatha! <>< John McKown ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
