I know I probably don't belong in such elite company as the doyens of this list. My parents were poor, simple folks who couldn't afford to send me to a good school to learn Latin.
On 06/10/2013, at 11:42 PM, John Gilmore <jwgli...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some part of David Crayford's problem here is that he does not talk > like---and almost certainly does not want to talk like---a mainframer. > > I am reminded of the verses in the Book of Judges: > > 12, 4 Then Jephthah gathered together all the men of Gilead, and > fought with Ephraim: and the men of Gilead smote Ephraim, because they > said, Ye Gileadites are fugitives of Ephraim among the Ephraimites, > and among the Manassites. > > 5 And the Gileadites took the passages of Jordan before the > Ephraimites: and it was so, that when those Ephraimites which were > escaped said, Let me go over; that the men of Gilead said unto him, > art thou an Ephraimite? If he say Nay; > > 6 Then said they unto him, Say now Shibboleth: and he said Sibboleth: > for he could not frame to pronounce it right. Then they took him, and > slew him at the passages of Jordan: and there fell at that time of the > Ephraimites forty and two thousand. > > David is of course in no danger of being slain here; but he does need > to practice his 'sh's. > > Even after he has done so some substantive differences will remain. > In particular, the mainframe community's notions of what constitutes > adequate reliability and availability are more exigent, much more > exigent, than those of the open-source community. This difference > comes close to being visceral; and it will only be bridged, if at all, > by patient and careful discussion. Dismissiveness---It is common on > both sides of this divide---will not not advance matters. > > John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
