One of the areas in the SAD is the NIP console.

You can see all of the NIP messages - similar to syslog - that occur at IPL
time.  These messages have been very helpful whenever I have had a problem
during IPL and I did not have the HMC handy.

Lizette


> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:14 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS IPL Issue
> 
> IBM is able to read them. They might request the SA dump if you report the
problem
> and you will be glad you took it.
> 
> Kees.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 08:06
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: z/OS IPL Issue
> 
> > This kind of error rarely gets mentioned on IBM-MAIN because SAD of
> > early IPL failure is super fast and IPCS takes only seconds to init
> > such a dump. The problems are usually fixed immediately and folks move
> 
> > on to more challenging issues.
> 
> I agree completely. But if there isn't someone forceful around that
insists on taking
> the sadump, in many installations the knowledge how to read a dump, much
less an
> sadump is a lost art. So sadumps don't get taken because there's nobody
there who
> knows how to read it.
> 
> Barbara
> 

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