I always thought "file" went with DD and "data set" with physical object.
Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: "R.S." <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl> To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date: 07/05/2014 07:37 Subject: Re: Upgrade Product - Vsam Files Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu> W dniu 2014-05-07 01:21, Tony Harminc pisze: > On 6 May 2014 16:02, Darth Keller <darth.kel...@.....com> wrote: >> So maybe this is nit-picking but >> >> "It is VSAM datasets, not files" >> >> How does one distinguish between a dataset & a file? > By name? Well, a file name looks like /usr/foo/bar or foo/bar or just > bar . A dataset name looks like USER.FOO.BAR or USER.FOO.BAR(MEMBER) > or in the TSO context, 'USER.FOO.BAR' or 'USER.FOO.BAR(MEMBER)' . What about files in CICS? What about ALLOC FILE in TSO ? ANother meaning: compare REPRO IFILE and INDATASET. In that context "file" means ddname, "dataset" means direct dataset "named directly". > So a lot depends on context... And that's just syntax; what a file and > a dataset *are* is a topic of its own. Yes, a lot. Regarding "data set" vs "dataset" pointless discussion: In English there is "data set", but computer technology provided many new terms like "volser" or just "dataset", and I'm not talking about commands/keywords/parameters, because it's yet another story. It's worth to keep in mind the language is to communicate, so as long both "data set" and "dataset" are understandable and do not make a confusion, both are OK. BTW: The worst translation I hear is "datasets" (or "data sets") -> zestawy danych. Polish mainframe folks just use English term "dataset", so such translation is really misleading. That's why sometimes I prefer English versions of some applications, user manuals, etc. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorized to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. mBank S.A. z siedzibą w Warszawie, ul. Senatorska 18, 00-950 Warszawa, www.mBank.pl, e-mail: kont...@mbank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 0000025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2014 r. kapitał zakładowy mBanku S.A. (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.696.052 złote. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
