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From: J R
Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 14:09
To: [email protected]
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS

In my case, I was using SPF under MVT. 

I thought it was earlier than '74, but I could be misremembering. 

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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:18:41 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS
> To: [email protected]
> 
> ISPF (then called SPF) was introduced with MVS in 1974.
> FSE to my knowledge was introduced latrr.
> 
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> Original Message 
> From: Hobart Spitz
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 07:44
> To: [email protected]
> Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS
> 
> For those who may be confused, this may make things worse :-) :
> 
> - TSO EDIT is an ancient (circa 1970) line mode editor, and which (being
> generous) has very little use today. Try typing HELP EDIT at READY or in
> ISPF option 6.
> - ISPF EDIT is a full-screen editor with a BOUNDS command. It was
> inspired by FSE (Full Screen Edit) in the early 1980s. ISPF EDIT is the
> editor that is used almost exclusively under z/OS.
> 
> All of the above discussion applied to ISPF EDIT despite referring to TSO
> EDIT. ISPF runs under TSO/E. TSO EDIT does not require ISPF. ISPF EDIT
> requires both TSO/E and ISPF.
> 
> While everyone seems to have understood what was intended, it might pay to
> be a bit more accurate, as there are various native TSO commands that
> provide (all but unknown and unused) line-mode analogs to a few ISPF
> facilities with similar names, e.g. COPY, ASM, LINK, LISTCAT, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Ted MacNEIL <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Native TSO EDIT does not have a bounds command.
> >
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> > Original Message
> > From: Lizette Koehler
> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 13:04
> > To: [email protected]
> > Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS
> >
> > It was not clear if you are using NATIVE TSO EDIT or if you are using ISPF
> > There are two lists you may wish to join if you have not done so already
> >
> > TSO/REXX URL to join:
> > http://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?TSO-REXX
> > ISPF URL to join:
> > https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A0=ispf-l
> >
> >
> >
> > Using ISPF you can restrict a change command by combining LABELS and
> > COLUMNS
> >
> > So if your data is on lines 50 to 100 - type a .a (dot a) on line 50, then
> > a .b (dot b) on line 100.
> >
> > Then the change command would look like
> >
> > C "string" "newstring" .a .b 35 50 all
> >
> > This will only change the lines .a to .b and only columns 35 to 50 and the
> > ALL says do all lines
> >
> >
> > Use PF1 for HELP in ISPF
> >
> > Review CHANGE and LABELs and COLUMNs
> >
> > You can exclude lines you do not want changes to occur on and then your
> > change command could look like
> >
> > C "string" "newstring" .a .b 35 50 all NX
> > NX says only lines showing - not excluded
> >
> >
> > What would might work better is to use ISPF in Batch. You could create a
> > REXX with an ISPF EDIT Macro to EDIT your dataset.
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > > Behalf Of esmie moo
> > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:50 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: TSO EDIT COMMAND - BOUNDS
> > >
> > > Good Morning Gentle Readers
> > >
> > > I am trying the bounds command because I want to make a universal change
> > > between columns 35 to 50.
> > >
> > > I tried the HELP BNDS doc however it is not very clear. Here is what it
> > says:
> > >
> > > The bounds may then be changed by overtyping with < to define the left
> > > bound and > to define the right bound.
> > >
> > > I am not sure where I would overtype the < & the >
> > >
> > > I tried >35 but it shifted the datat to col 35 which is not what I want.
> > >
> > > I would like to set the bounds between col 35 & 50 so that I can enact my
> > CHANGE
> > > command.
> > >
> > > Is this possible?
> > >
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