I see variants on the "moribund 9672s running just a few hard-to-kill apps under OS/390 V2R4 have now been replaced with zEC12s running z/OS 2.1 and a renewed business focus to move work onto the platform" (to quote Ed) scenario quite frequently.
It then becomes a matter of dragging said customer up the learning curve, given they've been forced to neglect their systems and applications for so very long. I suspect quite a lot of consultancy is driven by that "poise recovery" dynamic. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Linda <linda.lst...@comcast.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 22/08/2014 08:37 Subject: Re: Meet Cobol's hard core fans Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Hi Ed, I recollect the same as you do from Greg Lotko. IMHO opinion though, one big thing I see as missing are the user focused tv commercials and print ads. The end user customer used to push for each new upgrade. Now the voices of the tech folks are hard for them to hear above the noise from the move-off crowd. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Ed Jaffe <edja...@phoenixsoftware.com> wrote: > On 8/21/2014 7:08 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: >>>> Some 23 of the world's top 25 retailers, 92 of the top 100 banks, >>>> and the 10 largest insurers all entrust core operations to Cobol >>>> programs running on IBM mainframes, says Deon Newman, vice >>>> president, IBM System z. Since 2010, around 50 to 75 customers >>>> have left the mainframe fold, IBM says, while some 270 of IBM's >>>> 3,500 mainframe customers have come aboard as new clients since >>>> then, Newman says. >>>> >> Hmmm. Note the careful wording - "System z". How many of those leaving the platform were "legacy" (say z/OS) customers ?. How many of the new clients were non-zLinux ?. What's the delta ?. > > IIRC, when Greg Lotko referenced these same statistics during his keynote address at SHARE in Boston, he mentioned that approximately 40% of those "new" customers were z/OS. > > Having said that, my understanding is that this count of "new" customers includes customers that completely reversed previously confirmed, in-progress business plans to migrate off the mainframe. IMHO, it is completely fair to count them as "new" since their moribund 9672s running just a few hard-to-kill apps under OS/390 V2R4 have now been replaced with zEC12s running z/OS 2.1 and a renewed business focus to move work onto the platform. > > -- > Edward E Jaffe > Phoenix Software International, Inc > 831 Parkview Drive North > El Segundo, CA 90245 > http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
