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On Dec 17, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Ted MacNEIL <[email protected]> wrote:

> PR/SM (LPAR) doesn't know PROD from TEST.
> It only knows weight.
> If you have set it up for LPAR to have 80% and LPARB to have 20%, that's what 
> they get in times of contention. No more, no less.
> 20% is one's allotment so it's okay. 85% is above the allotment so it's 
> scaled back to 80%.
> This is how it's always worked.
> 
> 
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>   Original Message  
> From: L Hagedorn
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:15
> To: [email protected]
> Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> Subject: Re: MIPS, CEC, LPARs, PRISM, WLM
> 
> Thank you for the extensive information and examples. 
> 
> I will be hitting the books. 
> 
> Can you expand on this example: 
> 
> If LPARA wants 85% and LPARB want 20% (total 105%) LPARB will get 20% and 
> LPARA will be squeezed to 80%.
> 
> It seems counter intuitive to me and I'd like to understand. Lets say LPARA 
> is prod - they should get most of the resources. Why would LPARA be squeezed 
> instead of LPARB? 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 17, 2014, at 9:07 AM, "Staller, Allan" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> The answer is, "it depends".
>> 
>> First, there is no "priority" across LPARS. All LPARS are dispatched 
>> "equally" according to the LPAR weights. 
>> 
>> For example, if LPARA is weighted are 80 and LPARB is weighted at 20, the 
>> following occurs:
>> 
>> If LPARA wants 85% and LPARB wants 10% (total 85%) everybody is happy and 
>> goes on their merry way.
>> 
>> If LPARA wants 85% and LPARB want 20% (total 105%) LPARB will get 20% and 
>> LPARA will be squeezed to 80%.
>> 
>> If LPARA wants 50% and LPARB wants 40% (total 90%) everybody is happy and 
>> goes on their merry way.
>> 
>> The LPARA weight represents a "guaranteed minimum" proportion (note: LPAR 
>> weights need not total to 100. The proportion is relative.)
>> 
>> All of the above occurs when capping (either hard or soft) is not present.
>> 
>> Software capping can occur with resource groups.
>> Hardware capping can occur with group capacity limits.
>> 
>> This is a complex subject and much more than can be covered in a short 
>> e-mail. 
>> 
>> If you have not already done so, I suggest you obtain a copy of and read the 
>> PR/SM Planning Guide. The most recent version I can find is SB10-7155-01 and 
>> is located here:
>> https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg202e537c11be0929c8525776100663570&aid=1
>>  (watch the wrap).
>> 
>> RMF Monitor I (batch) has an excellent CPU report. This will also include 
>> the "PARTITION DATA REPORT". I will refer you to the fine manuals for 
>> details/
>> 
>> WLM *may* reach across LPAR Boundaries. If fact, it is designed to do this. 
>> However, if the DVLP lpar is not in the same SYSPLEX, WLM cannot be a factor.
>> 
>> As others have pointed out, what evidence is there that the "runaway" task 
>> is affecting "production" (factual, not conjecture!)?
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> <snip>
>> We have a situation with multiple LPARS on a CEC, running DB2 asids prod, 
>> test, dev. 
>> 
>> It is claimed a runaway DB2 DIST asid on the DVLP LPAR is burning CPU and 
>> stealing MIPS from the PROD LPAR and affecting production. 
>> 
>> Others claim this is not possible due to Prism. 
>> 
>> Will someone provide an overview of how Prism influences or controls MIPS 
>> usage (CPU) across LPARs sharing the same CEC, what are the limiting or 
>> controlling factors (if any), and how can the behavior be measured or 
>> reported upon so I can explain this with supporting doc? Does WLM play a 
>> part in sharing CPU across LPARs?
>> </snip>
>> 
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