On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Itschak Mugzach <[email protected]> wrote:

> The term 'open' for me is the liberty to choose. To choose the hardware
> from many makers and to move easily from one operating system to another.
> See how many are moving from unix to Linux so easy.
> The mainframe is not dead nor the customers. They, who can choose, vote
> for liberty. IBM killed all alternative hardware makers and now they buy or
> resell software makers. In Israel most of the mainframe sites are looking
> their way out, telling them selves this is because COBOL, pricing, and
> other tails. The real truth is that IBM kills the industry by being a
> monopoly. The only chance I see for the industry is IBM allowing
> alternatives.
>

​Being as how I'm a Linux partisan and FSF associate, I completely agree
with you. Of course, I would prefer my Linux on a z, under z/VM. Rather
than on Intel using VMware (or even, as I actually do, under qemu-kvm). I
truly don't know the price comparison of a "fully loaded" z13 vs. an Intel
(likely cluster) which could do the same work with similar responsiveness
and reliability. But I prefer the z RAS to anything Intel has. To the best
of my knowledge, Intel simply _CANNOT_ dynamically swap out a failing CP
for a "spare" CP with _no_ OS involvement (it is purely a hardware
recovery). We've had that happen, on a z9BC. The Windows people outright
called me a liar because "that is IMPOSSIBLE!!!" according to them. Same
when an OSA failed. The backup OSA did an "arp recovery" and all sessions
continued with no user outage. Again, screams of "you're lying!" from the
Windows camp here. Oh, and the OSA was "hot" fixed and restarted. All
without any outage to anyone or any session. Yet another lie (according to
you-know-who). Luckily, I had logs showing it. Not that it made any
difference in the minds of the managers here. ​



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> ‫ב-11 בספט׳ 2015, בשעה 09:58, ‏‏R.S. ‏<[email protected]>
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> > The term is not dead. It became meaningless, like "E" in TSO/E or SMP/E.
> > Now it is used as synonym for Windows/Linux. Not there is rather no
> (commercial) Unix here.
> > Maybe it shouldn't be used in such meaning, but it is.
> >
> > BTW: We (mainframe folks) use colour system (as opposite to black and
> white, no racism intended), despite of colours in mainframe. It is rather
> "toys are colourful". :-)
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