Charles,

Many years ago I sat in a vendor presentation peddling a particular application 
geared for the healthcare industry.  They were competing for business against a 
different application whose software happened to run on MVS (yes, back in those 
days).  The vendor kept going on and on about how their application system was 
"open" and the MVS one was closed and proprietary.  About half way through his 
spiel I stopped him and made three points and then a question.

1.  Yours requires brand X hardware to run on, and hardware line x1 within this 
brand hardware, the competition requires an IBM mainframe.
2.  Yours requires brand X flavor of UNIX, at a specific level, the competition 
requires MVS.
3.  Yours requires brand Y database manager to run the software, the 
competition doesn't need a database, it runs on VSAM files.

How is it that yours is open and the competition is closed and proprietary?

About that time the hardware rep was starting to come across the table to 
physically attack me until his software counterpart grabbed him and told him to 
sit down.

Rex

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Charles Mills
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 11:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Term "Open Systems" (as Sometimes Currently Used) is Dead -- Who's 
with Me?

> Open was tossed about for any non-mainframe architecture

Not my experience. I have always understood the popular usage to be as a 
synonym for 'nix -- sometimes in specific CONTRAST to Windows.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of J O Skip Robinson
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 9:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Term "Open Systems" (as Sometimes Currently Used) is Dead -- Who's 
with Me?

Years ago I was disabused of the notion that Open meant 'open' by the normal 
English definition. There was some problem with an application. I suggested 
moving it to different hardware. They scoffed at my naiveté. The application 
would not run on any other hardware. That was Windows, not Unix, but at the 
time Open was tossed about for any non-mainframe architecture. 

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