As I said it is possible to know the details without signing an agreement.
Last, but not least: let's imagine I have wrote such piece of code. Just
to simplify it is zIIP-eligible, but not "Neon-like". IBM is somehow
aware of my code. DO I have to asnwer how it was possible that I wrote
it? I don't think so.
So, I think it is legal to write a zIIP-eligible code without signing
special agreement with IBM. Of course IBM can ask "how did you know how
to do it", but I don't have to answer.
Disclaimer: I'm not going to do anything or convince anyone to do
anything related to zIIP workload, despite legal or no. Just discussing
possible logic flaw in the temrs and conditions.
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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 2015-10-28 o 22:12, Blaicher, Christopher Y. pisze:
Radoslaw,
Having coded in that area and environment, there is no way to get there by
accident. You need macros that you only get access to after you have a signed
ISV agreement in place, or you would have to do a lot of reverse engineering,
which is a big no-no.
So there is no way for a user to code "zip black magic" code and suddenly have
their code running on a z/IIP engine. Neon Software did it, but that was nefarious and
deliberate and got them in a whole lot of trouble.
Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Software Development
Syncsort Incorporated
50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
P: 201-930-8234 | M: 512-627-3803
E: [email protected]
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Chris,
It is very unlikely I would start coding in assembler, but it is possible. It is also
POSSIBLE, very unlikely, but possible to use "zIIP black magic" in the code.
Note, there are ways to obtain restricted knowledge withoout signing agreement
with IBM. This is non-technical (at least non-IT) issue.
Remember the contract is between companies, not human persons.
My point is by coding in assembelr (legal thing) one can code which is illegal
from IBM's point of view, despite of one is not aware of the restrictions.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
W dniu 2015-10-28 o 17:57, Blaicher, Christopher Y. pisze:
Given the hoops that one has to go through to run code on a z/IIP, I doubt you
can 'casually' get code to run on one.
Also, because any z/IIP processing is SRB mode, there are all those
restrictions in addition.
Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Software Development
Syncsort Incorporated
50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
P: 201-930-8234 | M: 512-627-3803
E: [email protected]
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W dniu 2015-10-28 o 14:00, Jon Butler pisze:
To get a legal copy you must have signed a user agreement (since several years
ago) which precludes the use of specialty engines except as allowed by IBM.
What are the terms and conditions for zIIP usage in the user agreement?
As far as I remeber, there is nothing about my coding.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland
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